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Old 03-17-2011, 11:41 AM   #1
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Okay, I keep hearing and reading about track conditions like blue groove, blown out, loose, loomy....

What are each of these. I believe I know, however I would like clarification.
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Blue groove is a hard packed track that has so much tire rubber on it that it looks like a blue groove on the track, very high traction.
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blue groove : super high bite, rubber laid on racing line
blown out : Pot holes, track breaking up, holes on faces of jumps, can happen on loamy tracks and also blue groove tracks
loose : Low traction
loamy : Loose dirt that often shifts throughout the day, is almost always also blown out. think "rooster tails"
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Where in Lakeland do you live man? I'm from there originally.

The RC Asylum in Waverly is considered blue groove
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So on a loose and loomy track that is tight what is a good tire/foam/compound to use for an 8T 2 Truggy. I was running Medium, Blue Dot, Gridirons and still was breaking loose often.
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So on a loose and loomy track that is tight what is a good tire/foam/compound to use for an 8T 2 Truggy. I was running Medium, Blue Dot, Gridirons and still was breaking loose often.
Is it hard packed underneath? Is it run dry most of the time? I would try the calibers or cityblocks if its ran dry. If it's moist most of the time, I beams would probably work better. Gridirons are a small pin and if the loam is thick the pins doesn't grab enough hard surface. Medium in Florida should work fine I would think.
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Switch to a softer compound, soft or supersoft. Also try a Cityblock. Colder temps in the winter months and loose track conditions call for a softer tire than medium. Save mediums for 95+ degree days on blue groove tracks. You'll know a blue groove track when you see it, it'll look like the racing line is made out of asphalt.
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Where in Lakeland do you live man? I'm from there originally.

The RC Asylum in Waverly is considered blue groove
I am in South Lakeland and practice at Bartow. I hope to start racing the Asylum, but I have only been doing this for 3 months and I am still trying to find a good setup for my 8T 2.
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So on a loose and loomy track that is tight what is a good tire/foam/compound to use for an 8T 2 Truggy. I was running Medium, Blue Dot, Gridirons and still was breaking loose often.
i would run m3 calibers or green losi digits
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I am in South Lakeland and practice at Bartow. I hope to start racing the Asylum, but I have only been doing this for 3 months and I am still trying to find a good setup for my 8T 2.
I second what Mike said. Also keep some I beams too. They work well on loamy stuff

Cool man, I lived off combee road for 19 years. It's funny when I lived there I knew nothing about 555 in bartow.

Go on out to the asylum. I met Ken Jolly this past weekend, he is the owner. He is one of the coolest guys you will ever meet. He will help you with any questions you have.
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Okay, I will save the medium gridirons for the asylum as it is blue groove.

The track is hard packed, but always dry. Nobody really maintains it. If I get there and nobody is there I hose it down, but usually there are already people running and its like a dust cloud. Most people run 1/10 SC trucks so they don't break loose as much since they run slower.

The other thing I need to learn about I guess is droop and how to set it up. Sounds like that can impact your traction too.

Keep the tire recomendations coming. Also, if you have a good place to get them let me know. My LHS dorsnt stock crap.
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Amain is your friend. Also try Absolute Hobbyz, good service and good stock.

Increasing your front droop will allow more weight transfer to the rear which will help increase traction.
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I am in South Lakeland and practice at Bartow. I hope to start racing the Asylum, but I have only been doing this for 3 months and I am still trying to find a good setup for my 8T 2.
Come on out to the Asylum and race. There are plenty of us out there to give ya a hand if you need it. Theres no better way to learn than to jump right in. The first time I ran my first R/C was at the race track. You'll need a personal transponder. I'll be there on the 26th. Hope to see ya there.

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I am in South Lakeland and practice at Bartow. I hope to start racing the Asylum, but I have only been doing this for 3 months and I am still trying to find a good setup for my 8T 2.
Come on out to the Asylum and have fun. 3 months is plenty of practice...lol
If you need help there are plenty of people willing to help. I can pit for you if you need me too. I can also help you with tune and setup if you need it. Just ask around for Jeremy Davis, Jeff or Shaun Davis. We would be more that willing to help you, along with 50 other people at this track. Everyone there is friendly and willing to lend a hand.
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