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Old 02-28-2011, 06:03 AM   #16
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Well, why am I not surprised? I have a RedCat Tornado S30 and let me tell ya. I DO NOT CARE what ANY body says, my tornado has outbashed, outran, and FLAT OUT out performed any of the 4 traxxas "toys" that I have owned, and the one keyosho. Everyone talks smack about 'em but has never even used one. Mine came with a cheap radio (2.4ghz.) but it still works perfect. I have had to replace the servos (because I drove the buggy through a really deep mess) and they got soaked. Go to hobbypartz.com, get the 12kg torque all metal gear t-pro's for 11 bucks each problem solved. As for the guy with the dogbone problem, go to mainstreamrc.com and get part #106015, or 166015. They are what you need. For that matter dude, you are doing something wrong. I have just straight up beat the hell outta my tornado s30, and I honestly dont see how you are tearin' up dogbones! Bottom line, you can waste anywhere from 5 to 6 hundred bucks, and STILL have to buy spare parts occasionally, or spend 2 hundred bucks, buy the usual spare parts that everyone in this hobby has to buy and learn the do's and dont's just like everyone. Either way, but I will say this, ANYONE who has under $400 in their rig is welcome to see my $200 1/10 buggy on the offroad track!

Yes durrty I did do something wrong i was holding the thorttle down on landing and I think I over torqued the dogbone, I am New the nitro rc and didnt realize the power the tornado has, I love it and I think it is awesome.

I have already ordered the More dogbones and the CVD that your talking about. Do you know if those fit the front as well, I think i heard it was only for the rear. once again I am new so.... But I agree it would take alot of $2 dogbones to equal the price tag of the other RC's but they look good to.

Everyone has there favorite for different reasons some because of the value and some because of the name. Marketing has alot to do with that. thats like i have a friend that only buys cheese burgers from Mickey d's but i think they suck and eat at the King. Oh well.

I dont want this thread to turn into some kind of soap box for which product is better I just was looking for a solution to a problem That I was specifically having which I know it was mostly operator error.

So basically the question was, Since I am a novice is there anything I can do to lengthen the durability of my dogbones. I think I have a few answers now.

1. Get the cvd's
2. Practice, LOL
3. Try differnt Brand

Thanks everyone for their input, it is much appreciated and Redcat is my pick thus far, mostly because it is affordable and fits my needs. Im not trying to compete in any events at this time, just learning the ropes.
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Well, why am I not surprised? I have a RedCat Tornado S30 and let me tell ya. I DO NOT CARE what ANY body says, my tornado has outbashed, outran, and FLAT OUT out performed any of the 4 traxxas "toys" that I have owned, and the one keyosho. Everyone talks smack about 'em but has never even used one. Mine came with a cheap radio (2.4ghz.) but it still works perfect. I have had to replace the servos (because I drove the buggy through a really deep mess) and they got soaked. Go to hobbypartz.com, get the 12kg torque all metal gear t-pro's for 11 bucks each problem solved. As for the guy with the dogbone problem, go to mainstreamrc.com and get part #106015, or 166015. They are what you need. For that matter dude, you are doing something wrong. I have just straight up beat the hell outta my tornado s30, and I honestly dont see how you are tearin' up dogbones! Bottom line, you can waste anywhere from 5 to 6 hundred bucks, and STILL have to buy spare parts occasionally, or spend 2 hundred bucks, buy the usual spare parts that everyone in this hobby has to buy and learn the do's and dont's just like everyone. Either way, but I will say this, ANYONE who has under $400 in their rig is welcome to see my $200 1/10 buggy on the offroad track!
welcome to the forum - first post, completely unbiased. Are you the importer?

LOL at quoting traxxas as the benchmark

LOL at the "keyosho" spelling

I mean c'mon dude

Nothing against Redcat in particular, but against all cheapo brands that are in for the cheap buck and crank out products that don't stand the abuse and drive people out of the hobby before they've had a chance to truly enjoy it.

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Curtisomega - sorry to hear what's happening. You can either buy replacement dogbones or post their exact dimension (length, diameter, pin size, ...) and hope that there's a "brand" name compatible somewhere.

as far as renting gear, I've seen it done many times, and the learning is as follows - the only cars that will stand out the abuse careless "renters" throw at them are those of ultra-basic, underpowered design (tamiya grasshopper is the best rental and it's been this way since 1985) - simple laws of physics. Keep in mind thoughtful, experienced racers who pay for their own gear break their hi-dollar cars too. Can you imagine we're throwing 6lbs pieces of plastic and metal 10ft into the air for hours in a row, and don't always land them on their wheels

Buy reputable brands, these guys know their engineering and material science. Pick up a good used bargain, but even then don't expect anything great below 4 or $500 RTR. Even then, forget the rental idea...

Good luck!

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hey Lonestar,

Yeah I was thinking that something with less power would be the route to take, then they really wouldnt be able to do much damage. i was actually thinking about the smaller Redcat Shockwave, it only has a .16 engine. What about the Exceed brand are they anygood.

thanks I will check out the brand you spoke of.
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as far as renting gear, I've seen it done many times, and the learning is as follows - the only cars that will stand out the abuse careless "renters" throw at them are those of ultra-basic, underpowered design (tamiya grasshopper is the best rental and it's been this way since 1985) - simple laws of physics. Keep in mind thoughtful, experienced racers who pay for their own gear break their hi-dollar cars too. Can you imagine we're throwing 6lbs pieces of plastic and metal 10ft into the air for hours in a row, and don't always land them on their wheels

Buy reputable brands, these guys know their engineering and material science. Pick up a good used bargain, but even then don't expect anything great below 4 or $500 RTR. Even then, forget the rental idea...

Good luck!

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If it was me, I wouldn't be renting out nitro powered cars.
I would set up electrics for renting to keep the replacement costs down.

Even set up a beginner class just for the renters to get a taste for racing and get them hooked.

It just might make the difference between a guy who would like to own an rc to play, or a guy who just has to buy an rc to race.
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as far as renting gear, I've seen it done many times, and the learning is as follows - the only cars that will stand out the abuse careless "renters" throw at them are those of ultra-basic, underpowered design (tamiya grasshopper is the best rental and it's been this way since 1985) - simple laws of physics. Keep in mind thoughtful, experienced racers who pay for their own gear break their hi-dollar cars too. Can you imagine we're throwing 6lbs pieces of plastic and metal 10ft into the air for hours in a row, and don't always land them on their wheels

Buy reputable brands, these guys know their engineering and material science. Pick up a good used bargain, but even then don't expect anything great below 4 or $500 RTR. Even then, forget the rental idea...

Good luck!

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I wouldn't be renting out nitro powered cars.
I would set up electrics for renting to keep the replacement costs down.

Even set up a beginner class just for the renters to get a taste for racing and get them hooked.

It just might make the difference between a guy who would like to own an rc to play, or a guy who just has to buy an rc to race.
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Dog bones should not snap or break. Bend maybe.

Dont bash on traxxas. Many of us started with Traxxas. AND they have done a huge favor to the expansion of this hobby over the last 3 years with the SC trucks, and promoting the TORC series.

Traxxas is not a RACE level RC and dont make or claim to make racers - REVO was just a bouns. NEITHER IS REDCAT.

Hell How many places and even order REDCAT parts.

durrtyredcat - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH - you just put REDCAT on par with Traxxas.

Yes I had one of these stupid things. Now my son drives a RC8. Guess what. The RC8 with the upgrades didnt cost what I spent on parts for a REDCAT and the hassle it took to get those parts.

AND WHO RACES 10TH NITOR BUGGIES - so whats this about on a track?
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Dog bones should not snap or break. Bend maybe.

Dont bash on traxxas. Many of us started with Traxxas. AND they have done a huge favor to the expansion of this hobby over the last 3 years with the SC trucks, and promoting the TORC series.

Traxxas is not a RACE level RC and dont make or claim to make racers - REVO was just a bouns. NEITHER IS REDCAT.

Hell How many places and even order REDCAT parts.

durrtyredcat - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH - you just put REDCAT on par with Traxxas.

Yes I had one of these stupid things. Now my son drives a RC8. Guess what. The RC8 with the upgrades didnt cost what I spent on parts for a REDCAT and the hassle it took to get those parts.

AND WHO RACES 10TH NITOR BUGGIES - so whats this about on a track?


Well Its actually a Backyard track only 100ft by 50ft that Im building. Im not trying to set up a Competition style track, even though that would be nice, Im just trying to build something that be fun for bashers and something to get the Kiddos interested in something besides riding the roads and getting drunk. I live in a "Redneck" area and know that they like the fact that " a little car has a motor" and that will real them in Plus i live right next to a place where they host Demo Derbys so I plan to pull some Intrest from those events.

How expensive is the RC8? Oh and I have to order all parts for redcat online, lol. the nearest shop which is in longview tx is over an hour away and would cost more in gas than shipping and also they dont carry redcat, Only the "Big Brands" but they are way overpirced, I think.

They only reason I chose the 1/10 scale was cause of price, I really had no clue of what the "norm" was.
Thanks for your input, I am learning more everyday about the view racers have on the vehicles and that will help me if ever I want to open a local hobby shop, which is the ultimate plan.
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How expensive is the RC8? Oh and I have to order all parts for redcat online, lol. the nearest shop which is in longview tx is over an hour away and would cost more in gas than shipping and also they dont carry redcat, Only the "Big Brands" but they are way overpirced, I think.
Are the Big Brands really overpriced? Right now you have an expensive conversation piece.

Starting a nitro buggy rental will fail quickly, no need to debate. Just do it like everyone else does, and rent slashes. Unless of course, they are overpriced. If you are interested in owning a shop and/or track, you really need to spend some serious time and learn how the business/hobby/industry operate. This means going to tracks and seeing what's going on.
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If you are interested in owning a shop and/or track, you really need to spend some serious time and learn how the business/hobby/industry operate. This means going to tracks and seeing what's going on.
I totally disagree with this. Go to your local track, and ask everyone there what brand they run and where they get their parts from. You would be surprised at how many people say online.

First thing is if you want to own and operate a local hobby shop, you better cater to the bashers and newbies.

Why do you think most hobby shops carry traxxas stuff? HPI? Because that is what sells.

I'm working on going into the RC business myself. And my main focus is a track. Because you really need the track along with the hobby shop. I want to rent vehicles too, but they will be slashes. And I want to promote Stock SCT racing because it's affordable, easy to use, and will attract new people.
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I totally disagree with this. Go to your local track, and ask everyone there what brand they run and where they get their parts from. You would be surprised at how many people say online.

First thing is if you want to own and operate a local hobby shop, you better cater to the bashers and newbies.

Why do you think most hobby shops carry traxxas stuff? HPI? Because that is what sells.

I'm working on going into the RC business myself. And my main focus is a track. Because you really need the track along with the hobby shop. I want to rent vehicles too, but they will be slashes. And I want to promote Stock SCT racing because it's affordable, easy to use, and will attract new people.

Why are you building a track, if you say that everyone at the track buys their parts online? There's no sense in spending the time and effort if you are implying that a track yields no parts sales. After all, if you are catering to the newbies and bashers, they probably don't have much interest in a track versus a playground or parking lot. If that's the case, you really don't "need the track along with the hobby shop".
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I am def. not affiliated with redcat in any way other than owning them. I am just tired of hearing people running them down unfairly. I have a 7 year old son who has a tornado, and with all his inexperience and total disregard for not breaking this buggy it stands up WAY better than any others we have run. Do I know everything about rc's?, absolutely not. I DO know that I have less in two tornado buggies parts and all than I have ever had into one of the "quality" brands. I know a lot of people who spend hundreds on their fancy cars, buggies, trucks & what have you. Guess what, they do not enjoy theirs any more than I do! I just honestly dont see the point in spending more than necessary. It is true, you pretty much have to order parts online, but it's like this as soon as you gain even a little experience you know what parts are gonna need replaced at some point. Order a few extra 2 dollar parts ahead of time! Problem solved! Who wants to over pay at a hobby shop anyways?!
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I own 2 redcat buggies. For the Dogbones, check into HPI dogbones. I bought some for my redcats, and they work great. I can't remember part numbers, but measure them and run a search for dogbones in the leinght you need.

As far as the big brand guys, sorry not everyone wants to dump $400+ into a vehicle that they don't know if they will enjoy or not, and some people have families and kids to support. My wife bought me a shockwave 2 years ago, and I bought a trashed tornado from ebay. They are excellent vehicles to learn on, practice with and decide if you want to follow the hobby, or if it just is not for you. Sure some pieces break, they all do. My buddy snapped his jato in half, and the Tmaxx and Revos are notorious for breaking the front end off. Koysho is great if you got the money.

For running a track, I think the redcats are good, or you could look into the RC10GT/GT2.
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over a short peroid of time, you will spend more money fixing the heap of crap redcat... im sorry but thats what they are - CRAP, nothing but cheap crappy designs... crap materials... crap customer service... and anything else that comes in that box = crap.

do yourself, everyone else and the RC world a favour and buy a Brand name car, the rc8.2 has come out now and people are moving on thier rc8B's... so pick one of them up cheap and gp have a blast and not have to worry about it breaking or wearing out after a tank or two lol...

as for the guy that said redcat is up with traxxas and "kyosho" what planet you live on mate?
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Of all the RC's I have had, The redcats have taken the least ammount of money to run. My Nitro4tec pro was always breaking down on the track, My Jato and Tmaxx break parts every run in the yard, and My RC8 was a rolling money pit that I ditched after 3 months of running. I have put $100 into my shockwave (upgrade parts and servos) and it works. Only other vehicle I would consider is an RC10GT but that is for nostalgia
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