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Old 01-11-2011, 11:14 AM   #1
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Okay, I am brand new to 1/8 Scale Nitro Truggy racing and would like to get some suggestions from you experts.

Currently I have a Hot Bodies Lightning Stadium with a .26 Big Block (I think it has to much torque) that I got used. I am practicing on a rough hard clay track in Bartow, FL that is not that big. There are a lot of tight corners and not many straigh-aways. There are some long doubles and a triple I cannot clear now, but I have seen buggies fly over them.

So, for a tight hard clay track with some long jumps what would be a good setup? I know this may be hard, but if you can get me a good base to start fromt I think it would help.

What would you recommend for:
Shock springs?
Shock oil weights?
Diff oil weights?
Gear ratio (spur and pinion)?
Tires?
Engine size?

Anything else you can think of...

Also. I know everyone loves driving - but if anyone wants to take some time and help a new guy I could meet up at Bartow 555 or RC Asylum one weekend.

Sean
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Sean,

I don't know specifics on the HB truggy, so I can't offer anything there.
Tires are the most important part of setup though. A good all around tire is the AKA Cityblock and the Pro Line Caliber. Talk to some of the guys at your track and see what kind of tires they are running, the wrong tire can make you hate driving sometimes.
There's no reason your truggy shouldn't be able to clear any jump that other cars are clearing. If you have a lack of power there's a few things to check. How is your motor tuned? If it's not tuned correctly, you will easily lose power. What motor and pipe are you running? How old is the motor and how well does it run?
What condition is your clutch in? A worn clutch will cause all kinds of problems. That's something to look at too.
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Okay, I am brand new to 1/8 Scale Nitro Truggy racing and would like to get some suggestions from you experts.

Currently I have a Hot Bodies Lightning Stadium with a .26 Big Block (I think it has to much torque) that I got used. I am practicing on a rough hard clay track in Bartow, FL that is not that big. There are a lot of tight corners and not many straigh-aways. There are some long doubles and a triple I cannot clear now, but I have seen buggies fly over them.

So, for a tight hard clay track with some long jumps what would be a good setup? I know this may be hard, but if you can get me a good base to start fromt I think it would help.

What would you recommend for:
Shock springs?
Shock oil weights?
Diff oil weights?
Gear ratio (spur and pinion)?
Tires?
Engine size?

Anything else you can think of...

Also. I know everyone loves driving - but if anyone wants to take some time and help a new guy I could meet up at Bartow 555 or RC Asylum one weekend.

Sean
Here is an old setup for a LSP. Maybe it will help.

Lightning Stadium Pro
Sidewinder Nitro Explosion 2005 - A Main Setup
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Front:
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Oil.............. Mugen 800wt
Pistons.......... 1.4x2 Kyosho Teflon pistons
Spring........... Stock black springs
Ride height ..... Bones level
Shock pos........ Inside on arm, Upper Middle on tower
Shock ends....... Racers Edge 3.0mm Aluminum (longer)
Shock travel..... Quite a bit limited, probably 4-5mm
Ackerman pos..... Front
Sway bar......... Stock 3.0mm
Front Caster..... 17 Degrees
Upper arm pos.... Middle Bottom
Lower arm mount.. 2 degree (King Headz Option)
Diff oil......... 7000wt
Camber........... -2 degrees
Toe.............. -2 degrees out per side
Tires............ Pro-Line Crime Fighter MT
Foams............ Racers Edge MAXX Multi-Stage Foams (uncut)
Wheels........... Pro-Line 23mm HD Maxx Standard Offset
Hubs............. Dace Manufacturing 23mm Hex Adapters

Center:
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Diff............. 10000wt
Brakes........... Kyosho fiber brake disk
Spur Gear........ 50 tooth
Clutch Bell...... 14 tooth
Clutch Shoes..... Hot Bodies carbon (untrimmed)
Clutch Springs... Hot Bodies 1.0mm
Engine........... Novarossi 528XR
Cooling Head..... Stock
Tuned pipe....... OFNA Jammin JP-2
Fuel............. Sidewinder world's blend, 30%
Glow plug........ O’Donnell 97T
Radio............ JR Z-1 Synthesized (75Mhz)
Steering Servo... JR DZ8800T
Throttle Servo... JR DZ8800T

Rear:
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Oil.............. Mugen 700wt
Pistons.......... 1.4x2 Kyosho Teflon pistons
Spring........... Stock black springs
Ride height ..... Bones level
Shock pos........ Inside on arm, Upper Middle on tower
Shock ends....... Racers Edge 3.0mm Aluminum (longer)
Shock travel..... Quite a bit limited, probably 10mm
Upper arm pos.... Middle Bottom
Arm pos hub...... Inside Hole
Camber........... -2
Antisquat........ +1 degrees (King Headz Option)
Toe in........... 59mm (3 degrees)
Diff oil......... 2000wt
Sway bar......... Stock 3.0mm
Wing position.... Flat
Tires............ Pro-Line Crime Fighter MT
Foams............ Racers Edge MAXX Multi-Stage Foams (uncut)
Wheels........... Pro-Line 23mm HD Maxx Standard Offset
Hubs............. Dace Manufacturing 23mm Hex Adapters
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Okay, I am brand new to 1/8 Scale Nitro Truggy racing and would like to get some suggestions from you experts.


What would you recommend for:
Shock springs?
Shock oil weights?
Diff oil weights?
10/7/5 or 15/10/7Gear ratio (spur and pinion)?
Tires?
AKA Gridirons in S and M, AKA Enduros in soft.Engine size?
OS .28xz, going to need some real power tomove that heavy of a truggy around.
Sean
Swapping tires and engines on an old Lightning is fair to Cut your teeth on, but once you get more experience you'll need to upgrade to something lighter and more nimble.
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Old 01-12-2011, 06:50 AM   #5
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Thanks for the replies. i believe it is an Orion .26 big block, but I don't know what kind of pipe.

I will have to research what all these settings are and how I change them

I know the biggest thing hurting me now is when I come out of a corner and punch it the truggy tends to break loose, making it hard get lined up for the next jump.

Hopefully by changing some of these it will help with that.
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