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Old 12-18-2010, 11:20 AM   #76
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for you guys that wine like little babies about how you have to put a shim in here or shave somthing there thats how it is with race cars if you cant deal with that then take a spin down to walmart and get your self a tyco
for me its durango all the way!
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thats the problem with getting kits that just came out.. it might take a few months for the kits to be 100%

the DNX408 is pretty nice looking
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Enough with the THE. It's annoying at best. I rode that train for a little bit until it revealed itself to me in full color.
Sounds like you had THE vision! Or THE revelation LOL
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Sounds like you had THE vision! Or THE revelation LOL
Ohh ya like a burnig bush or blinding light.
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I hate VS threads
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I have been price checking the parts for each, to my suprise many of the parts cost more for the JQ car. Sorry we all crash some" more then others lol."
And parts do need replacing when worn. Rear hub carrier 4 in parts bag 7 bucks DNX... JQ 7 bucks for 1 left OR right, not both. C-hubs 5 bucks for left and right DNX... JQ 7.79 for 1..left or right . Just dont understand why his parts are so costly.
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I have been price checking the parts for each, to my suprise many of the parts cost more for the JQ car. Sorry we all crash some" more then others lol."
And parts do need replacing when worn. Rear hub carrier 4 in parts bag 7 bucks DNX... JQ 7 bucks for 1 left OR right, not both. C-hubs 5 bucks for left and right DNX... JQ 7.79 for 1..left or right . Just dont understand why his parts are so costly.
Heres some more....shock springs DNX 5.50 & 5.00 JQ 9.25 ...diff ring gear DNX 23 bucks JQ 33.99 and the list goes on.....
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Heres some more....shock springs DNX 5.50 & 5.00 JQ 9.25 ...diff ring gear DNX 23 bucks JQ 33.99 and the list goes on.....
Very true crash. The only companies that I know of that can get away with that are kyosho and fioroni. I dropped $72 on mugen rear hubs juat because it had the OT on it. And it is exactly what it looks like.
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Very true crash. And it is exactly what it looks like.
Times are getting tough and I think everybody is looking for the best buggy for the buck, but time will tell which buggy will be best in the ...LONG RUN.
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As long as they are durable I think people will generally like them. I am a long time Losi fan Espically on the track and I recently rolled out a Mugen 6t. I think I'm faster with the Mugen. I was so stuck in my Losi stock pile of cars and parts that I was reluctant to change. So since then I'm on a new mission to pretty much try them all. At least if I roll one around that I don't like then I will move on to the next. And I have to try to not cary tue whole damm hobby store around with me it's a work in progress. But I've done the radio thing and ko eurus wins in my book, as for servos so far either ko rsx (time will tell) or hitec but I just ordered a bunch of Savox to put to the test and engines well it's no secret I seem to mesh well with the speed engines.

I actually expected the during parts to be very expensive. It's nice to see that they are reasonable. But between the 2 hubs on the 2 cars on here well over double is a bit much.
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I wonder if it's the same story in the UK?
When I looked through the JQ pricelist I was surprised how cheap most if the spares were. I'd be interested in seeing a comparison at UK RRP





Edit. I will do this for myself at some point but I'm on my phone now & that kinda thing takes ages!
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Just checked a few prices & in the UK things like driveshafts the Durango is like 2 more expensive plus many of the other prices are similar BUT the shocks are like 18 a pair more expensive! the fuel tank is half as much again at 15! Stuff like diff ourselves are about 2 more expensive too!
Most of the cheaper prices don't sound a big deal but 2 more on a 10 part = 20% more expensive! With the prices on the bigger stuff being much more than that!

Just seen the chassis is 20 more as well & 20 is about $32 using my iPhones currency converter which should help put these differences into perspective for you US guys

So I guess it depends on where you live which car would be cheaper to run!

VS threads are often a shortcut to disaster but sometimes bring up worthwhile information like these price differences so it all gives people something else to think about

It's inevitable that these 2 cars will be pitched head to head as they are the new kids on the block, being released at pretty much the same time & both have had a lot of interest during their development

My advice is if you can't choose between them just wait & see how both cars work out at the track fir the guys who buy in early & maybe even try both for yourself. Theyll both get the job done. It just depends which logo you want to wear on your Tshirt
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Just checked a few prices & in the UK things like driveshafts the Durango is like 2 more expensive plus many of the other prices are similar BUT the shocks are like 18 a pair more expensive! the fuel tank is half as much again at 15! Stuff like diff ourselves are about 2 more expensive too!
Most of the cheaper prices don't sound a big deal but 2 more on a 10 part = 20% more expensive! With the prices on the bigger stuff being much more than that!

Just seen the chassis is 20 more as well & 20 is about $32 using my iPhones currency converter which should help put these differences into perspective for you US guys

So I guess it depends on where you live which car would be cheaper to run!

VS threads are often a shortcut to disaster but sometimes bring up worthwhile information like these price differences so it all gives people something else to think about

It's inevitable that these 2 cars will be pitched head to head as they are the new kids on the block, being released at pretty much the same time & both have had a lot of interest during their development

My advice is if you can't choose between them just wait & see how both cars work out at the track fir the guys who buy in early & maybe even try both for yourself. Theyll both get the job done. It just depends which logo you want to wear on your Tshirt
here in the us the driveshafts are...40 usd DNX 52 usd JQ COMPLETE DIFF 42 USD DNX 58 USD JQ gas tank 18 usd DNX 20.50 USD JQ shock towers r-29 usd DNX 35.99 usd JQ f- 26 usd DNX 33.99 JQ
maybe a-mains mark up is higher here in the states...not good for us here.
here in the states most of the parts cost more for JQ's buggy...just stating facts not trying to bash.
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Well even I do not think this thread will help anyone to select which one they should get I'll put some points here since I've driven both. Again these are subjective since they are just my own opinion.

JQ is closer to LOSI in terms of behaviour meaning it's more nimble and nervous so to say. DNX in on the other hand is more stable like. DNX is heavier than JQ and it also feels like it. Both jumps well, turns better than LOSI and can maintain great corner speeds. What I mean by turning is that LOSI turns well but it means you need to have the rear end harder (use hard springs, small hole pistons etc) so you kind of a float the rear end. Also with this setup you need to be more carefull when you open the throttle exiting turns etc. to avoid the rear end to get loose. This is OK when you have smoother tracks and/or high grip but when you are more on the loose and rough it's where LOSI is in troubles and to me these both are not. To me JQ and DNX do not have that mid corner push like LOSI. Again Both accelerates well and in my opinion with normal diffs better than LOSI. With actives things are a bit different and since either JQ or DNX offers them yet you can't really compare. Now before all the LOSI fanboys jumps this I'd like to point out again that this is my personal experience driving both cars + LOSI 2.0 this year.

Now which one you should pick I can't say. However if you are more on the stable kind of car which still accelerates, jumps and turns well then I think DNX. If you want nimble and light maybe even nervous car with the above properties then JQ might be your pick. I can't stress enough that the kits are from 2 completely different worlds in terms of how they perform and basically the only thing in common is that they both are extremely fast. Both are new platforms with a lot of new ideas and both will further evolve when they get more track time & setups to suit different tracks and drivers. Spares cost to me are seconday thing but to some it might matter. Again if you do not have the support locally it really does not matter what the parts cost. Also according to my experiences either of the car has weak spots meaning if you keep it more between the pipes than crashing to what ever moving or non moving objects you should be fine and on the other hand everything breaks no matter of the brand. It remains to be seen how the support of these will eventually turn out in each area or track but both can be sourced from the big US on-line shop so if the local shop for some reason runs out you should not be in trouble.

After all the above all I can really say is that drive both and make your own decisions. As said they are so much different from each others that you really need to drive both in order to actually decide which one is better for you and you only.
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