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Old 10-27-2010, 11:16 PM   #1
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Over the last 6 moths i have been thinking a lot about why there is no aftermarket car companies. You know how 1:1 cars have companies like Shelby, Mclaren, AMG, etc, etc who will take a mass production model and turn it into a beast. Well why do you think nobody does this with RC cars. There are enough aftermarket hop up companies out there who will make a better part for almost all of the stock kits that are out as long as they are a popular seller, so why would one of them not purchase stock kits and them totally overhaul them and re-market them as there own, like King Headz Losi 2.0, or RPM Revo, etc, etc ( just examples) I'd like to hear your thoughts on this as I think there may be a market for overhauled RC vehicle Kits that come in one box ready to assemble with the best of the best for every part.
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X-factory does this with the AE cars and trucks and TQ racing does this the Team C cars and trucks.
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X-factory does this with the AE cars and trucks and TQ racing does this the Team C cars and trucks.
I dont see them anywhere though and I've never heard of either of them. Are they mostly overseas?
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I dont see them anywhere though and I've never heard of either of them. Are they mostly overseas?
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http://www.xfactoryrc.com/rc/index.php
http://www.tqracing.net/
are USA companies

http://www.teamcracing.net/
China company
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Over the last 6 moths i have been thinking a lot about why there is no aftermarket car companies. You know how 1:1 cars have companies like Shelby, Mclaren, AMG, etc, etc who will take a mass production model and turn it into a beast. Well why do you think nobody does this with RC cars. There are enough aftermarket hop up companies out there who will make a better part for almost all of the stock kits that are out as long as they are a popular seller, so why would one of them not purchase stock kits and them totally overhaul them and re-market them as there own, like King Headz Losi 2.0, or RPM Revo, etc, etc ( just examples) I'd like to hear your thoughts on this as I think there may be a market for overhauled RC vehicle Kits that come in one box ready to assemble with the best of the best for every part.
this seems like a good idea but when i think about it, all the top production cars are either designed or partially designed by top drivers who know exactly what we (drivers) need to have a race car, ofcourse all of them need few tweeks here and there to get them bullit proof but why do you need a full Kingz head Losi or full fironi MP9?? do you really need it for racing or just for the bling factor?? prices will be way over the stock kit and i dont think the performance will be alot different!! just MHO
what would be the price on a fully overhauled Fioroni MP9?? 5000 bucks??

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Old 10-28-2010, 04:20 AM   #7
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Jaz I think there are two reasons for this.

First off our sport requires you to be as much a mechanic as driver so
we are alot more capable than alot of 1/1 scale drivers as far as
working on our cars, add to that the size facility and tools required
for really hard core mods like say B-street SCCA car. We on the other
hand only need a few feet of work bench and an assortment of hand tools.

The other factor becomes money. As a Parts manufactuer for RC cars are you
going to make more money installing parts and building complete cars or
are you going to make more by simply selling alot of parts to end users?

When I ran SCCA I met alot of guys with some serious knowledge and
fabrication skills. On the other side of the coin where guys that simply
had there car built for them. Whatever maintinence they did was pretty
minimal. But the difference is cost, a full race prep of a street car might
run 20 to 30 thousand just in labor. You would have to turn out alot of
900 dollars kits with a 100 bucks profit to really make a living at it.
Considering how much flak Kyosho has taken lately for the price of there
MP9 I think even 900-1000 would be a tough sell in our market.
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Jaz,

It depends on what you mean.

Technically, Agama, TQ, Gravity, Hobbytech, Ishima, GS, Mugen, Caster, Intech, OCM, Sportwerks, Kyosho (past) all fall under your category.

Or, something like the Jconcepts car a few years back is probably technically more accurate where Jason Ruona did exactly what you are saying. Xfactory is the only one I know of off the top of my head currently.

Caster USA is in the middle of doing what you are saying through the use of Diggity Designs, but that is probably technically different.
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Thank you all for very valid points. And I guess J concepts has tried this idea and was unsuccessful. I was not aware of it. Looking forward to seeing this new Diggity designed Caster Mike
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Actually that is what made him famous. I think it was a BJ44? I just don't remember.

JConcepts exploded on to the off-road RC scene in 2003 with the prototype BJ4 and Illuzion B4 body. Jason Ruona, long-time racer and president of JConcepts, placed at the top of the B-Main in the Worlds in 2003 with this brand new 4wd buggy. With the new 2wd body on his B4, Ruona placed 7th in the A-Finals at the 2003 IFMAR Worlds.

Maybe he just did a body, but I thought he did a lot more to it. Now I am going to have to go google.....

The Factory Team B44 project came to life in 2003 as a cooperative effort between Team Associated and J Concepts’ Jason Ruona and Brad Reelfs. After Team Associated’s Ryan Cavalieri won the 2005 IFMAR World Championships in Collegno, Italy with the BJ4 Worlds Edition, Area 51 shifted into overdrive to produce a true "Associated"-inspired 4WD buggy that would continue to dominate the 4WD off road racing class. The B44 is the result of this two-year development effort.
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Found it....

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/reviewbj4we/
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Over the last 6 moths i have been thinking a lot about why there is no aftermarket car companies. You know how 1:1 cars have companies like Shelby, Mclaren, AMG, etc, etc who will take a mass production model and turn it into a beast. Well why do you think nobody does this with RC cars. There are enough aftermarket hop up companies out there who will make a better part for almost all of the stock kits that are out as long as they are a popular seller, so why would one of them not purchase stock kits and them totally overhaul them and re-market them as there own, like King Headz Losi 2.0, or RPM Revo, etc, etc ( just examples) I'd like to hear your thoughts on this as I think there may be a market for overhauled RC vehicle Kits that come in one box ready to assemble with the best of the best for every part.
I will cost to much.
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atomic mods does it with mini z's

http://www.atomicmods.com/Categories...uilt-Cars.aspx
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Isn't Team Durango essentially a perfect example of this? I clearly remember a Durango/Losi buggy back in 2006 that was all the rage. I believe it was a one off design at the time.
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Horizon did it 20+ years ago with a TQ10. It was basically a rc10 but instead of the gold alluminum chassis, it had a carbon fiber chassis.
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