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Old 07-25-2010, 10:14 PM   #16
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never use the mugen top, just pop it out the first time and throw it away, and pour it in after that lol

I like the Kyosho bottles, theyre the best but spendy and too small IMO

Vp Pro has a good amount of oil for the buck and the bottles dont leak at all
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Old 07-25-2010, 10:17 PM   #17
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lol yep your right. Everytime you know its going to happen so I wait for it and then get pissed when that top goes boooooommmmmm
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I thought I was the only one that happened to...lol. I put more fluid on ,y table than I do in the diffs...
How many times do you need this to happen before you listen to Tony?
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Old 07-25-2010, 10:21 PM   #18
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You mostly see Losi because it is always availible everywhere and its cheap, not because its better. Oil is oil, pick your brand and stick to it because they do very from brand to brand.
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I actually use Ofna oils in the diffs. The bottles are HUGE, so when I forget to order oils, I still usually have some left in the old bottle. I've been using it since I ran Ofna cars, and honestly it has been perfect. The tops don't pop off either. All losi oils for shocks though.
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Mugen and Xray have the best oils, the only downside is the price. AE and Losi actually tend to be the worst out there. If you notice most oils use the CST rating which is actually a real number. Losi and AE use a rating (25, 27.5, 30, ect.) which is just a scale. Therefore, converting CST oils to Losi and AE is almost impossible.

The thing with Mugen, Xray, and any CST oil for that matter is consistency. Since CST is a real number, you will always get the same viscosity. Losi and AE take a certain silicone oil and then add thinner to it. When they do this, not only is every bottle different, but the oil actual heats up faster.

Put a Losi or AE oil in a beaker and heat it up with a torch for a few seconds and then do the same with Mugen or Xray. You will be surprised what happens to the Losi and AE oils.
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Mugen and Xray have the best oils, the only downside is the price. AE and Losi actually tend to be the worst out there. If you notice most oils use the CST rating which is actually a real number. Losi and AE use a rating (25, 27.5, 30, ect.) which is just a scale. Therefore, converting CST oils to Losi and AE is almost impossible.

The thing with Mugen, Xray, and any CST oil for that matter is consistency. Since CST is a real number, you will always get the same viscosity. Losi and AE take a certain silicone oil and then add thinner to it. When they do this, not only is every bottle different, but the oil actual heats up faster.

Put a Losi or AE oil in a beaker and heat it up with a torch for a few seconds and then do the same with Mugen or Xray. You will be surprised what happens to the Losi and AE oils.
he is asking about diff fluid...

i like HotBodies shock oil now tho, its CST too.
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Old 07-25-2010, 11:27 PM   #22
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he is asking about diff fluid...

i like HotBodies shock oil now tho, its CST too.

Oops, well I like to keep all the oils consistent for both my shocks and diffs.
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Old 07-25-2010, 11:32 PM   #23
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Oops, well I like to keep all the oils consistent for both my shocks and diffs.
it will help other people anyways. alot of people are confused about the shock oil stuff anyways. i had 3 people ask me about the difference this weekend, when they asked what shock oil i run, they were scratching their head when i said 500 is not equal to 50
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Old 07-25-2010, 11:40 PM   #24
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just my 2 cents,

i've been using Ultimate Racing fluids for both my diffs and shock on all my RC cars. they are great and half the price of Xray, Mugen fluids.

http://www.ultimateracing.es/

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Conversion tables are hard to find. This is what I use as a guide for different ratings and oils.

http://www.twf8.ws/php/index.php?opt...per&Itemid=175
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Old 07-25-2010, 11:59 PM   #26
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i use this one for shock oil (forgot i had it on my computer lol). you can download and keep it for your use, i keep it with me at all times
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The Mugen oil is really good, but I have been using Associated oil for 20 years and can't say I have had any issues, plus it is a good price....
I do like the Kyosho and Xray oil too, but it's too expensive for something I dump in an old soda can fairly often. It's silicone oil, not caviar......
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Anyone know why the Mugen diff fluid literally stinks, while the OFNA diff fluid has no smell? I mean like gear oil in a real car.....
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How many times do you need this to happen before you listen to Tony?
And what would that be for diff oil bottles poping off?????????
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Well I guess I am in between a rock and hard place. I find it hard to believe that mugen has the same values as losi when it comes to the diff oil. I have some losi diff oil and it is like molasses compared to mugen.

The risk is that the car will not drive the same and I really don't want that.
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