Jaz240

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They dont have any out of pocket expenses though..1-2 new racers a week fill out the roar paperwork and they just send in the money. They did this for a few months and now everyone who races or practices at their track have roar memberships..no body has ever gotten severely injured so I have no clue what would actually happen if someone did, and I hope I never find out

bentgear

And one other item, there is only ONE (1) paid employee at ROAR, the administrator. He does just that, the administrative dutes. He does not take part in the rules making process.

Ed M.

Owen RaCing

iTrader: (17)

Somebody put roar out of their misery. They cant make a rule rite for any class, on or off road electric or nitro. Big races killed regionals. I imagine back when regionals were big, there was a smaller amount of big races to choose from making regionals more important. Roar needs to realize that and make sure that regionals qualify for something.

To bad roar controls the slots for the worlds, or anybody could take over the "Nationals". It's just a title, roar does not have the only rites to the title "Nationals"

captain america

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Therein lies your first basic problem: you have to have parties capable of contracting, otherwise it's null and void ab initio. There's an old saying that goes "you can't fix stupid."

It's a fairly easy fix though, just get the parents/guardian to sign for the child.

There's a maxim in law: if the foundation is weak, the work is weak. Whether it's an insurance policy with ROAR, or a private contract with a track owner, if it's not built on sound principles, it will not protect you. Period. I prefer to rely on contracts that I write myself, because I know what's in them and are far easier to defend than something written by a corporate attorney in Legalese that is probably designed from its inception with hidden loopholes.

People rely on lawyers too much to solve their problems, rather than acting like adults and solving matters amongst themselves privately. That's why settlements are these huge, outrageous amounts and the only ones that really benefit are the law firms, whereas the actual injured party has to limp away with a check for 60 bucks.


That's a good point you bring up, and it's at the heart of the problem: people want the benefits of a sanctioning body,but don't want the responsability that comes with maintaining it, and just like a garden that isn't tended to, the weeds grow out of control... And then folks complain that everything is screwed up.

bentgear

Captain, I don't disagree with anything you have posted. My problem is track owners will get the 14 year old to sign cause they want him/her to race. What about the 14 year old that shows up at a major race at the facility from out of town that is not riding with parents? There are just too many variables to rely on them. Even the tracks using ROAR insurance should have another additional policy.

BTW, ROAR insurance has paid some claims in the past. They are not discussed publicly.


Ed M.

hakmazter

OK I have a concern then only because of a past experience of a racer at an event. There was a racer who was marshalling at a big race down south a few years ago who got hit in the face with a truggy at about 30-40 mph because it went off the backside of the track straightaway. Using this as an example, a runaway, a bump just before a high speed coorner or some other issue could get a car off the track.

Now lets say hypothetically it was just a spectator who happened to be driving by and had never seen rc racing before. Since they are obviously not a roar member, what happens then? All liability placed on the track event coordinator or lhs that is running it when I assume they think they are protected by Roar?

davidfast

iTrader: (24)

Pretty sure that's covered by ROAR insurance the track buys on a yearly basis........

looper

iTrader: (19)

well after looking through the list i didnt see this one on there...

gsrman4885

iTrader: (23)

excuse my lack of 1/8 scale knowledge, but what body and buggy is that?

looper

iTrader: (19)

jammin x1cr

Venom body

skydark_34

like that body shell?where u get it?....i'm still a very very small racer..don't know bout much of the rules..simply a lot of headache with this bodyshell rule..

fukitol

+ 1 captain is a forum tough guy. blah blah blah. a waiver isnt going to hold up its a WAIVER to make people happy thats about it.
signed, mickey mouse like my waivers

carcrusher46

iTrader: (17)

What I don't understand are these two points:

1) If these "banned" bodies take away from the spirit of racing (ROAR's main rules), what the heck is a 1/8 buggy supposed to look like? There's no basis in reality for the class at this point. Half of the bodies on that list are regular style 1/8 bodies, with no cab-forward design.

2) If the bodies were banned for the reason of cost control, then why are they banning bodies that come STOCK WITH A VEHICLE?!?!?! Now they have to go and buy another body and custom fit it to their chassis. Hardly saving anyone any money . . . . .


Oh, and let's not forget that Losi's bodies, the ones that started this trend, are still legal.

<rips up ROAR membership card> - worst $52 I ever spent in my life . . . . . .

pitpop

Thanks ROAR for all the stuff you do... and thanks for spelling correctly as well, because most of the stuff you guys write has good grammar and spelling

Matthew Bailey

Why doesn't ROAR just copy EFRA or IFMAR rules for racing? Stop trying to be different for the sake of being different.