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Old 04-26-2010, 09:09 PM   #16
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OK Is there any basic method to set the camber & toe without setup board and any gagues? I've heard that ruler and calipers work good together. 2mm difference from 90* are about 1*. But I do not know how to measure and set the toe
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diff fluid change and 1deg camber all the way round less camber in rear gives more traction in the back
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Old 04-26-2010, 11:09 PM   #18
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So is it good idea to change rear camber from 2* negative to 1* negative?
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OK Is there any basic method to set the camber & toe without setup board and any gagues? I've heard that ruler and calipers work good together. 2mm difference from 90* are about 1*. But I do not know how to measure and set the toe
The ruler and caliper will work, what I use is the Losi camber and ride height gauges, LOSA99172 and LOSA99173 respectively. To set your toe use the camber gauge, set it for what you want for toe in/out, put the front or rear wheels up against a flat vertical surface (wall, door, 2x4, ect) and put the gauge against the center of the wheel and set your toe.

As far as setting your rear to 1 deg negative camber, you don't know yet if the 2 deg is going to work for you. Just put the basic settings on it I recommended and start driving it to see what it's doing and adjust from there.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:48 PM   #20
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OK guys, truggy has been set up according to your suggestions
On saturday I'm going to hit the track, and we will see. I will give you information if theese changes work or not

10-10-5 diffs (I will also try 7000 for the front)
brake bias changed, front brakes brake more than rear
rear camber -2*, rear toe-in 2*, front camber -2* and toe-out 1*
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So what settings did you end up trying out?
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10-10-5 diffs (I will also try 7000 for the front)
brake bias changed, front brakes brake more than rear
rear camber -2*, rear toe-in 2*, front camber -2* and toe-out 1*
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If the truck ends up being to tight on corner entry (10k front diff fluid ) then change the front diff fluid to 7k first. With the 10k I think you will find the truck will be to tight on corner entry and too loose on corner exit.
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Unfortunately, an thunderstorm just broke out over Warsaw, so I can't test my new setup. Gonna do this ASAP
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Hey, I've got a question - my truggy (LSP) very often oversteers and is very aggressive. Which settings do I have to change to reduce slides while exiting and in corners and to calm it down a little bit?

Now, I run:
rear camber 2* negative, rear toe-in 2*, 10k/5k/1k diffs, front camber -2*, front toe-out 1*.

I thought about changes in the rear - 3* negative camber and 3,5* rear toe-in according to Hudy Set-up book. What do u think about it?
oversteer or understeer?, that set up looks like it would push on power.
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Still oversteers, but generally, it's better. I believe that it's natural for Lightning, so... Q1 finished on 2nd place TQ'ed Q2, so it's not bad I am gonna change front diff to 7k - 10k doesn't work on this track .
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Still oversteers, but generally, it's better. I believe that it's natural for Lightning, so... Q1 finished on 2nd place TQ'ed Q2, so it's not bad I am gonna change front diff to 7k - 10k doesn't work on this track .
So did the 10k fluid do like I said it would?
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Yep, I couldn't go tight through the corner. On 7k much better
Finally, finished od 3rd place. Thanks for help
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Yep, I couldn't go tight through the corner. On 7k much better
Finally, finished od 3rd place. Thanks for help
If you find that your truck still has a little too much oversteer you can go to 10 or 15k in the center and it will slow down the rotation of the truck.
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OK, the problem had gone - just bought Jammin X2 with Xray front active diff & Novarossi Toro Nero Team Should not be disappointed.
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