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Old 04-01-2010, 07:20 PM   #1
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Race groove is hard packed and alittle rough. No blue groove. Outter edges of race groove is loose and dusty. I'm a new racer so i'm in the loose a good bit lol. I'm thinking proline calibers soft? I need traction help! Running the stock medium losi tire now.
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i would try super soft i-beams
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Race groove is hard packed and alittle rough. No blue groove. Outter edges of race groove is loose and dusty. I'm a new racer so i'm in the loose a good bit lol. I'm thinking proline calibers soft? I need traction help! Running the stock medium losi tire now.
Soft AKA I-beams would be my recommendation. If the temp is above 50 degrees it will shred lugs off the super softs (speaking from experience ).
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i would defielty remmend the soft- I-beams, with a little bit of loose dirt. or you could try the city block, in the front and i-beams in the rear.

the track i go to is very similar to that.
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If it's above 75, you could even go with med. The I-Beam gives a ton of forward bite, but not a lot of side bite. If you find that you're pushing in the turns, try switching out the fronts for Cityblocks. You'll then have what's referred to as "City-Beams".

That track surface looks a lot like my local track, and your description sounds like what our track does too. I've found that the I-Beams do indeed work well when there's a lot of fluff outside the groove. The Calibers worked well, but I got a bit more wheel spin. I've also run JConcepts Crosshairs (soft) on our track with really good results.

Before you go crazy and buy an $80 set of tires, maybe see if there's anyone at the track who would let you try out the tires you're considering. You should be able to tell within a few laps if it makes a difference for you.
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i would defielty remmend the soft- I-beams, with a little bit of loose dirt. or you could try the city block, in the front and i-beams in the rear.
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If it's above 75, you could even go with med. The I-Beam gives a ton of forward bite, but not a lot of side bite. If you find that you're pushing in the turns, try switching out the fronts for Cityblocks. You'll then have what's referred to as "City-Beams".

That track surface looks a lot like my local track, and your description sounds like what our track does too. I've found that the I-Beams do indeed work well when there's a lot of fluff outside the groove. The Calibers worked well, but I got a bit more wheel spin. I've also run JConcepts Crosshairs (soft) on our track with really good results.

Before you go crazy and buy an $80 set of tires, maybe see if there's anyone at the track who would let you try out the tires you're considering. You should be able to tell within a few laps if it makes a difference for you.


what do the i-beams, do in the rear less wheelspin? since they dont have as much side bite, as the city blocks.
one thing i did notice was that when the track started, to really get grippy and slick the soft i-beams would slide but not real bad though.
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Good stuff ya'll. Keep the ideas coming.
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what do the i-beams, do in the rear less wheelspin? since they dont have as much side bite, as the city blocks.
one thing i did notice was that when the track started, to really get grippy and slick the soft i-beams would slide but not real bad though.
The tall, wide lugs dig through the fluff, and get down to the hard pack dirt. Also, because they're wide lugs, you get the paddle effect on the loose material. When the fluff goes away, and the groove runs in, the tall lugs will actually fold over, and decrease bite. That's when you switch to a small pin tire like a Holeshot, or Gridiron.

On the loose fluff, the pins on the Cityblocks do decent, but the tread pattern is tighter, so it can't dig down as effectively. Also the pins don't have as much surface area as the lugs do, which reduces the paddle effect.

The arrangement of the lugs on the I-Beam allows the dirt to slide through (lots of straight paths for the dirt to move through when going from side to side on the tire). This is what causes it to not have the greatest side bite.
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The tall, wide lugs dig through the fluff, and get down to the hard pack dirt. Also, because they're wide lugs, you get the paddle effect on the loose material. When the fluff goes away, and the groove runs in, the tall lugs will actually fold over, and decrease bite. That's when you switch to a small pin tire like a Holeshot, or Gridiron.

On the loose fluff, the pins on the Cityblocks do decent, but the tread pattern is tighter, so it can't dig down as effectively. Also the pins don't have as much surface area as the lugs do, which reduces the paddle effect.

The arrangement of the lugs on the I-Beam allows the dirt to slide through (lots of straight paths for the dirt to move through when going from side to side on the tire). This is what causes it to not have the greatest side bite.



makes sense have you ever notice, though that on a smooth grippy track the city blocks grip to much? and not be able to have any give in the rear ? i do think though thats, just the setup i was using though.
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Soft AKA I-beams would be my recommendation. If the temp is above 50 degrees it will shred lugs off the super softs (speaking from experience ).
man, something else was going on. Its never below 50 in az until middle of the night in winter. I run SS tires until 75 degrees and i havent encountered the lugs ripping off, i just loose traction, I have both soft and SS and u dont go to med unless its blue groove and dry track
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I would try m3 calibers. I beams and citiblocks are nice but outdoors I find the caliber m3 to work the best for me on the truggy. On the buggy that is definatly a track for green or red eclipse. If you need more steering then xbt ul front.
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man, something else was going on. Its never below 50 in az until middle of the night in winter. I run SS tires until 75 degrees and i havent encountered the lugs ripping off, i just loose traction, I have both soft and SS and u dont go to med unless its blue groove and dry track
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Dont jump the gun on tires! when I first started out I bet I tried 20+ tire combos with unsatisfactory results. look at you set-up talk to people with the same rig as yours and ask them about set-up tips. every adjustment on your truggy will effect handling is some way, traction is just a small piece of the puzzle. I am far from an expert but this is something I found out along the way. good luck and happy racing
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try a softer clutch setup to cut down on wheel spin
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