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Old 03-30-2010, 05:49 PM   #1
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What are the general rule of thumbs for 1/8th buggy ride height?
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What are the general rule of thumbs for 1/8th buggy ride height?
Run the manufactors suggested ride heigth.
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:08 PM   #3
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all buggys/ have diffrent ride heights, but since i dont have a ride height gauge i just make sure the front, and rear arms are level or a little below.


but i have wondered why losi eights , front arms never get level reguardless of what you do or, is that just how they are?
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here you go

Lower ride height: -increase overall stability
-better on smooth tracks

higher ride height: -decrease overall stability
-better on bumpy tracks
-less bottoming

Front higher than rear:
-increase weight transfer to the rear (on-power)
-increase stability
-decrease steering

Front lower than rear:
-increase weight transfer to front (off-power)
-more steering
-less rear traction
-car may nosedive off jumps

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now my 2cents, check the track surface if smooth or not and decide, if huge jumps are present, go higer overall not to bottom alot, run 1mm lower front to get more steering, if not enough, go to 2mm. check ride height after each heat, specially the first couple heats, the car will drop and you will have to readjust it again.
Also, set your droop first and then the ride height, make sure the car is ready to hit the track when setting the RH (battery, fuel and everything)

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Typically you want the arms around level. Front slightly higher than the rear. Most buggy ride heights are around 27-30 mm, depending on the buggy. If it's a HB D8, I can tell you for sure to start at 28 in the front and 29 in the rear. Then go from there.
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here you go

Lower ride height: -increase overall stability
-better on smooth tracks

higher ride height: -decrease overall stability
-better on bumpy tracks
-less bottoming

Front higher than rear:
-increase weight transfer to the rear (on-power)
-increase stability
-decrease steering

Front lower than rear:
-increase weight transfer to front (off-power)
-more steering
-less rear traction
-car may nosedive off jumps

GOD BLESS HUDY

now my 2cents, check the track surface if smooth or not and decide, if huge jumps are present, go higer overall not to bottom alot, run 1mm lower front to get more steering, if not enough, go to 2mm. check ride height after each heat, specially the first couple heats, the car will drop and you will have to readjust it again.
Also, set your droop first and then the ride height, make sure the car is ready to hit the track when setting the RH (battery, fuel and everything)

cheers
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This gentleman knows his stuff...copy that and put it in your tool box..if your running a losi,follow either Drake or Truhe set up as a base line and adjust from there. The most used adjustments on the losi will be ride hight and front camber.
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Thank you very much for this information. My buggy couldn't land a jump to save its life last week & it's an ele so the balance is off from the stock 8ight.
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all buggys/ have diffrent ride heights, but since i dont have a ride height gauge i just make sure the front, and rear arms are level or a little below.


but i have wondered why losi eights , front arms never get level reguardless of what you do or, is that just how they are?

the 8ight lineup in general are Overly picky on ride height....your doing your self a disservice by Not having a gauge.
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Thank you very much for this information. My buggy couldn't land a jump to save its life last week & it's an ele so the balance is off from the stock 8ight.


go up 2.5wt in your rear end...go to 55pistons and Black spring's....you can also go up spring and oil on the front end....pistons are your choice.

ALWAYS check your ride height with a gauge...you car will thank you in the end.
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the 8ight lineup in general are Overly picky on ride height....your doing your self a disservice by Not having a gauge.


il get a ride gauge but why doesnt, the front suspension arms on the eight not get level and this is with equal, amount of droop and nothing beat. yea sure if you add a ton of, preload the arms whould be level.
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il get a ride gauge but why doesnt, the front suspension arms on the eight not get level and this is with equal, amount of droop and nothing beat. yea sure if you add a ton of, preload the arms whould be level.
i cant tell you i designed it ...but its just the geometry of the car ..its just the way it is ...and really not to bad i might add ..i thought the same thing when i saw one for the first time ..i was telling the guy .."i dont know whats wrong with it but the arms need to be level " now that i have one its just drives great ..and its the norm for the 8 line of cars .. a wise man (adam drake) told me at this years pnb in the atl ...you run our cars this way because thats how our cars run ... hard to argue with the man ....on my old jammins it was level in front just below level in the rear ....
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imma say this would be a good place to start

http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/ADsetup.pdf

http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/FischerSS098e2.pdf

http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/THsetup.pdf

most are relatively the same ..but you find that across the board on losi 8's wheather e or not
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What the proper way to adjust the ride heigth ? Can you do it by moving the droop setting ? I thought that was wrong but cant remember now.
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What the proper way to adjust the ride heigth ? Can you do it by moving the droop setting ? I thought that was wrong but cant remember now.
NO, you never do it with the droop set screw, you do it by either adding those plastic clips with different thickness (unthreaded shocks like MP9, STRR) or if its threaded shocks (8ight, MBX6, 808, Jammin..etc etc) you adjust it by turning the ring on the shock.
To increase the ride height you add more clips or you turn the ring Clock wise (view from top) to decrease, you remove clips or turn the ring CCW.

not to forget to do the same amout of turns on both sides (threaded shocks) first you start by having the same gap between the ring and the top of the shock on both shocks and start from there.

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Adam cover's almost everything you need to know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H99PK...ext=1&index=36
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