R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro Off-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-01-2004, 08:54 AM   #736
Tech Prophet
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Orange, Ca
Posts: 17,659
Trader Rating: 33 (100%+)
Default

nitro kid-- I will have to assume you are using your 19T in your buggy since you are using a 78 spur. I geared up my 19T (orion element) 3 teeth from what I was running my stock motors (orion core stock). I would start by gearing up three teeth from what you normally run a stock motor and try it there. 19T motors run full blank arms so they have a ton more torque then your normal stock motor (especially those new trinity stocks) I would start with 22-23/78 with a 19T. You should be pretty close.

Aaron-- I understand soldering batteries is a personal preference and I am OK with that but more convienent??? What could be easier then plugging and unplugging. You do not need a soldering iron hot. Also I would bet I get a better connection with my deans after 50 installs then you get with resoldering the same wire 50 times. Just a thought. I understand we are slitting hairs. The real benefit of direct solder is shorter/less wires and a slight reduction in weight due to no plug and less wire but neither of these things can be "felt" on the track by anyone. Just my two cents. The point is do what ever you want. As long as you use good quality plugs (like deans ultra) it will not really matter. Personal preference.
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2004, 09:53 AM   #737
Tech Elite
 
Wicked-Wayz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Do you feel you're a star?
Posts: 2,033
Trader Rating: 19 (100%+)
Send a message via ICQ to Wicked-Wayz Send a message via AIM to Wicked-Wayz Send a message via MSN to Wicked-Wayz Send a message via Yahoo to Wicked-Wayz
Default

I have the tamiya plugs(clear), I think that's what they are. I have thought about using deans. I think I will keep with plugs and just use deans. Thankz for the extra advice casper(nice website also).

Peace Aaron(W-W)
__________________
Schacht Design Works Trackside Hobbies Dirtheaven CRC Hobbies MidWest Tri-Clone RC Scoring Pro LiveRc.com 92 Zero Designs
Wicked-Wayz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2004, 10:45 AM   #738
Tech Prophet
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Orange, Ca
Posts: 17,659
Trader Rating: 33 (100%+)
Default

Tamyia plugs are robbing power. The proof in that is run modifed and watch the plugs melt and fuse together! You may not notice the change but and experienced driver should be able to. You should also notice a small increase in run time.
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2004, 11:20 AM   #739
Tech Elite
 
Aaron Waldron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Escondido, CA
Posts: 3,720
Default

Casper - I use a Deans Plug on my gas truck reciever packs. Whenever I'm at an electric race, my soldering iron is always on and cranked full blast, so it's no hassle to solder a few wires here and there. Also, once the battery is soldered into the car, I can clip the alligator clips onto my battery bars and charge the battery with the body on, which means I only have to unclip and head to the track. It's just easier for me.

wicked-wayz - Casper is right. The Tamiya plugs leave room for improvement.
__________________
Aaron Waldron - LiveRC
www.liverc.com
Aaron Waldron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2004, 11:24 AM   #740
Tech Elite
 
mafiaracers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: West Linn, Oregon
Posts: 3,759
Trader Rating: 22 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to mafiaracers Send a message via MSN to mafiaracers
Default

Aaron,

does it mess up your ESC to charge batteries while its connected? I've seen some people do it but I'm always afraid to try it.
__________________
Chris Woods

MAFIA MOTORSPORTS
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-items-sale-trade/168239-pit-board.html

TEAM WAVE
www.teamwaveonline.com

TQ Racing Wire
www.tqracing.com
mafiaracers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2004, 11:41 AM   #741
Tech Elite
 
Wicked-Wayz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Do you feel you're a star?
Posts: 2,033
Trader Rating: 19 (100%+)
Send a message via ICQ to Wicked-Wayz Send a message via AIM to Wicked-Wayz Send a message via MSN to Wicked-Wayz Send a message via Yahoo to Wicked-Wayz
Default

I have noticed changes between the run times. I am not new at this, just never decided to change plugs. How hard is it to put the deans plugs on?

Peace Aaron(W-W)
__________________
Schacht Design Works Trackside Hobbies Dirtheaven CRC Hobbies MidWest Tri-Clone RC Scoring Pro LiveRc.com 92 Zero Designs
Wicked-Wayz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2004, 12:08 PM   #742
Tech Elite
 
Aaron Waldron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Escondido, CA
Posts: 3,720
Default

mafia - As long as the switch is turned off, everything will be ok.

wicked-wayz - With a hot soldering iron, some good 60/40 rosin core solder, a hair of wire cutters, and a steady hand, it's no problem at all.
__________________
Aaron Waldron - LiveRC
www.liverc.com
Aaron Waldron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2004, 02:29 PM   #743
Tech Prophet
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Orange, Ca
Posts: 17,659
Trader Rating: 33 (100%+)
Default

Deans are pretty easy to install. For batteries I usually just spend the extra little bit and get the deans pigtail's. That way I just have to solder the wires to the battery. They are not hard.

Aaron-- I understand about the irons and the aligator clips and the whole thing. I know all the top guys do it. I have found it nice to not have to worry about positive and negative on charging my packs. It has been really nice to use plugs to help make this a more mindless task. Again my point is that it is preference. Both ways work equally well.
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2004, 02:40 PM   #744
Tech Elite
 
mafiaracers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: West Linn, Oregon
Posts: 3,759
Trader Rating: 22 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to mafiaracers Send a message via MSN to mafiaracers
Default

Aaron,

I just finished working on my bearings. I must say....WOW. what a huge difference. I took all the bearings out of the tranny and carriers and packed them full of mothers polish....I mean, he!!a full. I didn't even wipe off the excess, I just put them back where they came from and put it all back together and hooked my dremmel up to the topshaft and ran it for about 10 minutes straight.

Before I did the dremmel, the entire drive train wouldn't spin. I actually had to physically turn the dog-bone....it felt like a ton of resistance. But I ran it on the dremmel and 10 minutes later even with all the excess and used polish residue crud still inside the tranny and carriers, it would actually spin very freely. I got a couple 2 seconds of spin just from spinning the dog-bone. No gear, no tires, just the shaft and crud and it spun. Then I cleaned the snap out of it, put it back together and holey freakin cow! I put the wheels and gear back on and spin the wheel....she spins like a ^*#@% !! I can't wait to see how it sounds and feels on the track.

Thanks for that tip!
__________________
Chris Woods

MAFIA MOTORSPORTS
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-items-sale-trade/168239-pit-board.html

TEAM WAVE
www.teamwaveonline.com

TQ Racing Wire
www.tqracing.com
mafiaracers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2004, 09:51 PM   #745
Tech Regular
 
beetlebz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 452
Send a message via AIM to beetlebz
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by mafiaracers
Polishing the bearings .....I konw what I'm doing tomorrow!
pervert!!!

no seriously though, the car needs ALOT of work. i might just take my tranny apart tomorrow and hit the local associated dealer (xtreme RC in new milford, CT, great guy, good track) and replace all the bearings in the tranny, while i pickup my new spur gear lol

then im going to let the engine idle for a bit longer. i got a little rambunctious during break in today with my shiney new .12 CVRX.

i just couldnt resist the urge to try out the MIP 4 n 1 clutch. little baby rocks!

besides replacing the bearings, what else might i consider replacing in the tranny? what are high wear parts that affect the performance of the drive train?
beetlebz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2004, 10:26 PM   #746
Tech Regular
 
beetlebz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 452
Send a message via AIM to beetlebz
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Aaron Waldron
Casper - I use a Deans Plug on my gas truck reciever packs. Whenever I'm at an electric race, my soldering iron is always on and cranked full blast, so it's no hassle to solder a few wires here and there. Also, once the battery is soldered into the car, I can clip the alligator clips onto my battery bars and charge the battery with the body on, which means I only have to unclip and head to the track. It's just easier for me.
is there any real benefit to running battery packs in a gas truck? ive always run regular AAs and ive never had a problem. i thought about getting a batt pack when i get my T4 (not for a little while yet) cuz ill have the charger, but is there any benefit to running batt packs other than not having to replace AAs all the time?
beetlebz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2004, 11:04 PM   #747
Tech Elite
 
Aaron Waldron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Escondido, CA
Posts: 3,720
Default

mafia - Did you think I was lying to you?

beetle - The main thing is the convience of having a rechargeable pack..but also, the connections in a soldered-together pack are much more secure, and the weight is closer to what was used when the truck was being designed.
__________________
Aaron Waldron - LiveRC
www.liverc.com
Aaron Waldron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2004, 01:03 AM   #748
Tech Elite
 
mafiaracers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: West Linn, Oregon
Posts: 3,759
Trader Rating: 22 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to mafiaracers Send a message via MSN to mafiaracers
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Aaron Waldron
mafia - Did you think I was lying to you?

No sa.....no sa massa waldron....I, I, I wouldsa neba doubted a man za yo statua.....I sorry for questionnin ya massa waldron...I, I, za sorry.
__________________
Chris Woods

MAFIA MOTORSPORTS
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-items-sale-trade/168239-pit-board.html

TEAM WAVE
www.teamwaveonline.com

TQ Racing Wire
www.tqracing.com
mafiaracers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2004, 01:18 AM   #749
Tech Regular
 
beetlebz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 452
Send a message via AIM to beetlebz
Default

hey aaron, ive broken down the punch list on my GT as follows. some are repairs, some are just upgrades, id like you to help me prioritize them if you would...

1) replace rear bearings w/ 3/16ths, and install an mip CVD kit, new velocity rims, keep my losi ribs up front, but put a set of hole shots on the rear. cost $80

2) replace all bearings and carbide balls in the tranny, and any other worn out parts i can find. because its somewhat cheap for these bearings, id probably do a robinson steel spur n clutch bell. $20-50

3) replace the shock oil and springs all around. if i have the cash, a whole T4 threaded shock kit. if not, just the oil and springs. the shocks dont leak or anything, just need some TLC cost $30-50

4) new FT titanium turnbuckles, new ball cups, new balls, all the way around. $40

5) futaba 3010 steering servo, servo saver, and mip zero maintinence steering kit

i think reguardless of which i pick first, im goign to replace all the screws on the bottom of the chassis for the sake of uniformity, that and some of the heads are stripping.

so, given that you had between 50 and 100 bucks a shot to begin upgrades, how would you prioritize them and why?

thanks
beetlebz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2004, 07:59 AM   #750
Tech Prophet
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Orange, Ca
Posts: 17,659
Trader Rating: 33 (100%+)
Default

beetlebz-- For gas truck the benefit is not having to take the 4 screws out of the battery box (losi not a big a deal with a AE) about once a day to replace the batteries. In the long run you will save money since AA's can get expensive if you add up all the batteries used to run a full season. There is not performance gain I am aware of though.

As for the truck. I would get the titanium tie rods first and then work on the tranny noises. Thats my opinion but this is Aaron's thread!
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Loaded Serpent 710. Aaron Burans Previous Car! NitroMaxx3.3 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 2 05-03-2008 05:42 AM
Aaron Bomia is an Excellent Seller! Luckyman4 Buyer/Seller dispute and Feedback discussion forum 0 06-25-2004 09:23 AM
AARON BOMIA = Great Trader Mart42 Buyer/Seller dispute and Feedback discussion forum 1 02-05-2004 08:15 AM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 07:46 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net