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Old 03-03-2010, 08:57 PM   #61
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:27 PM   #62
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I'm failing to see what you're getting at here. European and American tracks are vastly different. It would only make sense that different vehicles would perform differently. Losi and Associated are American based companies, their cars are designed to work on the type of track they're raced on the majority of the time. To insinuate the Losi isnt as good as brand X because they dont do well outside their market area is just as crazy as claiming one brand is better than the other.

I see all these claims about Drake making the difference. Would Xray do better in the results if he drove for them? If so, would this take any credibility away from Losi? All baseless claims that mean nothing. Flip a coin, chances are, the car is more capable that you'll ever be.
1-You obviously have comprehension problems...
I was exposing to the OP that other cars dominate in other parts of the world as much as Losi dominates in southern california Get it???

2-Yes Drake makes a difference
Yes Xray would do better if he drove for them
Yes it would take away from the overglorified image some people have of Losi only because they see Drake win Big races.

3-please explain how my claims are baseless?
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:23 AM   #65
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1-You obviously have comprehension problems...
I was exposing to the OP that other cars dominate in other parts of the world as much as Losi dominates in southern california Get it???

2-Yes Drake makes a difference
Yes Xray would do better if he drove for them
Yes it would take away from the overglorified image some people have of Losi only because they see Drake win Big races.

3-please explain how my claims are baseless?

1) That is a possibility.

2-3) With no empirical data to support your claim, it is baseless.

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geejay, I understand where you're coming from with the losi. But please understand that just because guys are serious racers doesn't necessarily reflect they're choices in brand. I've played with many great basketball players who wore cheap sneakers and still whip everyone on the court. A choice to pick one brand over the other is a personal choice regardless of skill. I've owned just about every buggy and truggy on the market, only because I like to try different things. Now....losi 2.0 buggies and truggies are great driving vehicles, in fact, I think they changed the game in that regard. However, one cannot dispute the fact that Losi's success is primarily due to it's marketing ingenuity and podium finishes by drivers that could win with anything. Furthermore, it's also a fact that many losi drivers purchase losi because of those factors. If you put xray, mugen, or any other brand in the place of losi......they would sell based on the same premise.







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Yes I am very serious. You can dibble and dabble all you want, the fact of the matter the better claimed car is not where to be found in the US. Where Im at there are alot of serious racers, which you will see if you come to Nats, but out of all the serious racers here, I have seen 2 drive an Xray.Only 2. Im not talking about newbies that run what ever the LHS tells them too, but guys that wrench everyday, race every weekend, I dont see alot. Watchin the Nitro Challenge - I didnt see many. Just like Honda or Toyota IMO makes a better car, you see alot on the road. Mugen has caught on here in the US and they are makin a push to be crowned with AE and Losi, I would have thought that because the Xray is so much better that the 3 time National Champion that I would see in on the podium more here in the US.... Im not saying its bad... I love my Losi and all the so called slop, that i just dont see, have not broken a part and never seen arms tweeked upward.... Call it what you want but I buy what proven not what looks better.
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You're making decisions based on the stuff that you see and totaly disregarding everything else...
I'll have you know that in other parts of the world other brands dominate and Losi cars are nearly non existant...
local markets tend to gravitate towards the car that wins on a national level, In France for example, where Renaud savoya (mugen driver) has won the national championship 2 or 3 years in a row, you see races With 6 mugens in a 10 car field.
Losi wins all the races in my area so it must be the best... Wrong!!
Go to europe where Losi hardly wins anything and you will have a different vision of things.
HotBodies is the World champ, japanese champion (same driver) go figure...
Mugen is the current european Champion, French Champion and German champion (not 100% sure for german)
AE are the UK champs
Kyosho won the sweedish nats
It all comes down to having the best drivers on a given market.
The only place Losi really dominates is in the US with Drake and Truhe, you're basing yourself exclusively on this, that's kinda narrow minded really...
Im not saying whats the best - Im speaking solely for the USA. Dont care about other countries. Lets see how far the Losi 2.0 EU goes....
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one reason why losi isnt popular in europe, is because i dont think losi has a distruber there i not sure though. but xray and hpi ,and kyosho etc does so that the main reason.
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Im not saying whats the best - Im speaking solely for the USA. Dont care about other countries. Lets see how far the Losi 2.0 EU goes....
LOL...
Well the mugen has to be the best car cause Most people in my area run them and they win most of the races!
Don't care about the rest of the world!

Ps:Losi does have a distributor in europe

http://www.horizonhobby.co.uk/
But it's underfunded Just like Xray and Mugen in the US interesting huh?

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Worlds best buggy and driver are the D8 and Atsushi Hara, right?
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I run losi because of there GREAT customer support. Horizon hobbys alway there if you have Any problems and thats says alot about a company. I run losi for 10 years and they have always been there for me when i needed it the Most. Speedyrob
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:08 PM   #73
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I say buy the car you like, and go with it. No matter what car you have your going to have problems. There are to many variables. You can travel 3 to 4 hrs from home to go racing, your car running awesome and have a servo go out, engine problems, clutch issue, glo plug go's out 5 min into the main etc. Honestly how many pro's have you seen in the lead and have a simple problem like this and there done for the day. I enjoy racing RC'S as much as the next guy, but the truth is there all a piece of $hit for the $1500 -$2000 we put into them. I believe for the money we put into them they could all be much better built. I mean if you compared them to a motocross bike look what you get for the money and the abuse they can take with a 150 - 200 lb. rider on board.
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Old 03-05-2010, 07:11 AM   #74
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I say buy the car you like, and go with it. No matter what car you have your going to have problems. There are to many variables. You can travel 3 to 4 hrs from home to go racing, your car running awesome and have a servo go out, engine problems, clutch issue, glo plug go's out 5 min into the main etc. Honestly how many pro's have you seen in the lead and have a simple problem like this and there done for the day. I enjoy racing RC'S as much as the next guy, but the truth is there all a piece of $hit for the $1500 -$2000 we put into them. I believe for the money we put into them they could all be much better built. I mean if you compared them to a motocross bike look what you get for the money and the abuse they can take with a 150 - 200 lb. rider on board.
Uhh I wouldn't compare them to a motorcross bike. After a season toss the frame, new valves every 20 hours with the Ti valves, new jug and head after a hard season....etc. We have motorcross piles of parts in the corner of my shop...... Maybe better comparing them to a woods bike or a moped if your trying to make a point....lol
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I Agree with most guys in here, it's not the car that makes the driver, but the other way around. There are many kits available out there, and anyone who is interested in getting into the hobby or changing cars, should base their decisions on personal parameters and testing... That is my opinion, if you want to know if one is better than the other then you'll just have to try them out...
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