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Old 02-04-2010, 01:52 PM   #31
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dude, the +4 is a 3 port same as the r. they are counting the exhaust. so if you really wanna be like them both are 4 port
the +4 is a 4 port, not counting the exhaust port.
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Old 02-04-2010, 02:02 PM   #32
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guys go to neobuggy.net the losi engine is on there, although its a direct copy of a nova bf .21 lol.
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the +4 is a 4 port, not counting the exhaust port.


The N21BF/R, etc. etc. is just a 3-port. 3-port windows.

The +4 has a split front induction port; making it a 4-port.

Not counting the exhaust in either case.
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guys go to neobuggy.net the losi engine is on there, although its a direct copy of a nova bf .21 lol.
Nope.

It's a 4 port; not 3. Has the current 4-styled 'lower' head.

Turbo button, not std.

Has turbo'd crank; not a 'base' crank like in the BF; which doesn't have the turbo'd center exit to the crank.

Amongst other things...
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Old 02-04-2010, 02:13 PM   #35
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Nope.

It's a 4 port; not 3. Has the current 4-styled 'lower' head.

Turbo button, not std.

Has turbo'd crank; not a 'base' crank like in the BF; which doesn't have the turbo'd center exit to the crank.

Amongst other things...


oh sorry about that i dint click on the read more on it. it does look like a nova engine though.

i wonder how much it will be maybe i try one out.
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oh sorry about that i dint click on the read more on it. it does look like a nova engine though.

i wonder how much it will be maybe i try one out.
It will look like a Nova engine because they are the ones making it with Losi's input.
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Old 02-04-2010, 03:37 PM   #37
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It will look like a Nova engine because they are the ones making it with Losi's input.
so losi is telling nova how to make an engine?
Not buying that one.
Honestly it's probably just a basic Plus 21-4.
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Old 02-04-2010, 03:52 PM   #38
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so losi is telling nova how to make an engine?
Not buying that one.
Honestly it's probably just a basic Plus 21-4.
Hahahaha.

Finally someone gets it.
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:01 PM   #39
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Relax!!! they will probably release a losi 2.0US! that would only be available in north and south Americas
LOL. I wouldnt bet on it.They probably will.
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Gets what? Little doubt there was input from Losi on the mill.
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Gets what? Little doubt there was input from Losi on the mill.
You mean Drake? Who is sponsored by Novarossi and Losi?

You bet there was some input to create and engine. But only to the extent that Losi says "make us an engine at $xxx price point". Drake wins with a Losi/Novarossi car/engine combo. Folks want to purchase those same go-fast parts. Losi/Nova want to sell said parts and not everyone can reach for a "Team" Nova; but they can reach a "Losi Nitrotec"---made by Novarossi

So they make money and the consumer has that warm fuzzy feeling inside that he has the best, or near best equipment.
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I'm pretty sure that Losi put there own specs/tweaks they wanted on the Nova Mill they are using for the blueprint. Why can't they. I'm sure Nova has the right mind to say whoa!!! if something in there tweaks to there mill is going to be disasterous.

OS builds a Ninja to the specs Ninja(Mugen) wants, and they do it to keep the motor looking like it's own motor, and nothing like a true OS motor.
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The Nova Losi engine indeed has input from Team Losi. There are several people including Adam Drake who were involved in the developement of this engine. Nova Rossi's quality is without question and the input of several team members produced a very high quality mill with exceptional power, drivability and mileage. A huge amount of time spent on the dyno and out at the track were critical in achieving this goal. No one told anyone how to make a motor, it was sucessful racers conveying their requirements for a race engine and both parties working toward that same goal.
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The Nova Losi engine indeed has input from Team Losi. There are several people including Adam Drake who were involved in the developement of this engine. Nova Rossi's quality is without question and the input of several team members produced a very high quality mill with exceptional power, drivability and mileage. A huge amount of time spent on the dyno and out at the track were critical in achieving this goal. No one told anyone how to make a motor, it was sucessful racers conveying their requirements for a race engine and both parties working toward that same goal.
Agreed

I'm just saying in my opinion, the pile 'o parts needed to achieve this was basically already in production and just needed an new label on the head along with the agreed price point
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Hey guys, here is some information that may answer your questions.

Some of the parts will be available in the US. They are:
LOSA5422 15mm Shock Cap Top, Vented
LOSA5431 Foam Compensator for vented shock caps
LOSA1728 Aluminum Inclined King Pin Spindle & 12 deg Carrier
LOSA1729 Aluminum Inclined King Pin Spindle
LOSA1733 Aluminum Inclined King Pin Spindle Carrier, 12 deg
LOSA1734 Aluminum Inclined King Pin Spindle Carrier, 10 deg
LOSA99040 Metal Servo Arm Insert, 23S Airtronics
LOSA99041 Meatl Servo Arm Insert, 23 JR
LOSA99042 Metal Servo Arm Insert, 24 Hitec
LOSA99043 Metal Servo Arm Insert, 25 Futaba
LOSA3551 Cente Diff 46T Spur Gear


The following parts will ONLY be available in Europe, South Africa, UK, and Australia
LOSA1713 Front Tower
LOSA1719 Rear Tower
LOSA9169 Tuned Pipe Mount (only difference is it is HA black)
LOSA8093 8IGHT 2.0EU Body
LOSA3539 Wheel Hex (only difference is they are HA black)
LOSA1757 Adj Front Hinge Pin Brace w/inserts-(only difference it they are HA black)
LOSA1758 Adj Rear Hinge Pin Brace w/inserts-(only difference it they are HA black)
LOSA8382 8IGHT 2.0 EU Logo Sticker Sheet
LOSA8383 Team Losi Racing Sticker Sheet: 8 2.0EU.
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I definitely need to pick up the shock caps and servo inserts.

T. Hodge, any input on what the difference in king pin inclination is and what handling difference it will make?
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