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Old 07-15-2009, 06:22 PM   #16
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i tore mine down after break-in since its an RTR and i want to learn the car anyway. and to my surprise the car is put together VERY VERY WELL from the factory. loctite in right spots, no real bad machining, few bound parts, minor flash. very good work. i did have a seized screw but that happens. actually IMO was a risk to break it a RTR w/o goin over it b/c u know stuff falls out doesnt fit well etc. to my surprise, i didnt get that. so a likely omen to see when it comes to puttin it on the track and puttin a hurtin on many a 'kit'.

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No aluminum hubs on the 2.0 race roller? Seriously?


IMO the RTR just makes more sense if you don't already own a good radio. It looks like the DX3S is a pretty good mid-level radio. And...I'm sure you could squeeze better performance outa the 454 and use it as a solid practice motor.

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Old 07-15-2009, 09:25 PM   #18
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so what is so special about the roller chassis. it says it has flex. and milled and stamped thing is wierd too.

whether the aluminum is stamped or milled from a block, it shouldnt matter, what does matter is the grade of aluminum, and thickness, and such.
milled parts typically require a higher grade of aluminum/material becuase of the manufacturing process which creates a bit stronger part compared to that of a stamped part

milled parts are also typically more costly in the long run to produce because of the labor involved with individual pieces VS a stamped out part
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IMO the RTR just makes more sense if you don't already own a good radio. It looks like the DX3S is a pretty good mid-level radio. And...I'm sure you could squeeze better performance outa the 454 and use it as a solid practice motor.

Just thinkin out loud...

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I agree ...being new to the nitro world but not new to RC the RTR just looks to have the best options with it for those first getting into nitro 1/8.... not to mention the fact that it also comes with a starter box ...hell those alone run 60-10 bucks depends on which one you get ...I like the radio as well and its abilities and technology behind it

Now for a die hard 1/8 scale racer who has maybe been in the game a bit the roller hands down FTW but im partial to losi products for offroad racing im sure theres many team ass. guys out there that will say im nuts
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the rtr tires are weak. good for breaking in the engine on the street
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and on the roller and rtr, all the knuckles and spindles and hubs are plastic.

i thought for sure that they would have the aluminum ones on the roller, but no.

so what is so special about the roller chassis. it says it has flex. and milled and stamped thing is wierd too.

whether the aluminum is stamped or milled from a block, it shouldnt matter, what does matter is the grade of aluminum, and thickness, and such.


aluminum shock caps...why would they skimp out on that for the rtr, its not like it costs that much and will not affect performance, that is only for strength and looks.

are the smart diffs anything special?? and they anodized the aluminum blue on the rtr, of course they say its to make it good looking, but why really??
so one can tell the difference in who has the rtr and who has the roller.

Its a big difference in the way the chassis flex - and the CNC RR chassis is more durable
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No aluminum hubs on the 2.0 race roller? Seriously?


IMO the RTR just makes more sense if you don't already own a good radio. It looks like the DX3S is a pretty good mid-level radio. And...I'm sure you could squeeze better performance outa the 454 and use it as a solid practice motor.

Just thinkin out loud...

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No alum hubs - why do you need them - i got a set for sale for $25 bucks - I used them once and it was no benifit for them ----so not worth it in my opinion
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