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Old 05-06-2009, 08:01 AM   #16
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3pks get's my vote. super easy to navigate/setup and the quality is exceptional! plus it has all the same feature's as the 4pk IIRC except for the 4th channel? if you find holding a 1lb remote stressfull you really need to hit the gym

i love seeing these post's with people claiming the FASST has issues, i have been googling for 2 day's and haven't seen 1 relevant post within regard's to that, a lil' competition envy perhap's?

what's the word that i've seen many time's from a few certain people's finger's? oh ya "you wanna play you gotta pay!"
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3pks get's my vote. super easy to navigate/setup and the quality is exceptional! plus it has all the same feature's as the 4pk IIRC except for the 4th channel? if you find holding a 1lb remote stressfull you really need to hit the gym

i love seeing these post's with people claiming the FASST has issues, i have been googling for 2 day's and haven't seen 1 relevant post within regard's to that, a lil' competition envy perhap's?

what's the word that i've seen many time's from a few certain people's finger's? oh ya "you wanna play you gotta pay!"
Hmmm... I've seen several runaways on the FASST system at our local track. Not low battery, appears to be heat related actually.
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:05 AM   #18
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3pks get's my vote. super easy to navigate/setup and the quality is exceptional! plus it has all the same feature's as the 4pk IIRC except for the 4th channel? if you find holding a 1lb remote stressfull you really need to hit the gym

i love seeing these post's with people claiming the FASST has issues, i have been googling for 2 day's and haven't seen 1 relevant post within regard's to that, a lil' competition envy perhap's?

what's the word that i've seen many time's from a few certain people's finger's? oh ya "you wanna play you gotta pay!"
Guys from canada drove to revelation raceway to race and their FASST failed them. To be honest though I've seen problems with the Airtronics and the Futaba 2.4 systems.
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:09 AM   #19
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I gotta agree with most of the comments on here.

#1 FASST has been a problem for a lot of guys
#2 The 4pk has a nicer feel but also an incredible pricetag
#3 The Spektrum radio feels cheap but it works great

I personally use a KO Helios but owned a 3pk a while back. It was a good radio and I liked it but had to replace it after getting it wet. If I was going to purchase a radio now I probably would stay away from it because of the trouble people had with the FASST system. The worst part about that was Futaba was doing its best to not acknowledge there actually was a problem. I dont know what they are doing now but last year there were a ton of angry Futaba owners.

I am considering at some point picking up another DX3R for a back-up radio. It didnt feel as good as the Helios but it worked great and the price is fantastic. Another thing to consider is Spektrum has second to none customer service. If you ever have trouble with any of their stuff send it in to them and they will promptly get you out new stuff. I use the Spektrum system in my KO for this reason.
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Update.. I use my 3PKS with a Spektrum module, the reason I chose the 3PKS over the 4PK was the fact that I didn't want to buy five new receivers. I see no problem in regard to speed with the Spektrum module in the Futaba radio. I don't need FASST because I'm not very FAST.
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:49 AM   #21
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3pks get's my vote. super easy to navigate/setup and the quality is exceptional! plus it has all the same feature's as the 4pk IIRC except for the 4th channel? if you find holding a 1lb remote stressfull you really need to hit the gym

i love seeing these post's with people claiming the FASST has issues, i have been googling for 2 day's and haven't seen 1 relevant post within regard's to that, a lil' competition envy perhap's?

what's the word that i've seen many time's from a few certain people's finger's? oh ya "you wanna play you gotta pay!"
I have seen plenty of problems with the FASST systems. And there have definately been complaints on here and on other sites. Must not have searched hard enough.

I stick with spektrum. They were the first and are the best. Even if it's not thier radio(It is) I would still run a spektrum system. The spektrum DSM2 system used in the 3R is very fast and trouble free. They had a few issues early on with it losing bind, but that has been taken care of 100%. Like others have said, spektrum(horizon in general) has awesome customer support. That is enough to keep me a customer.
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:59 AM   #22
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well I have used and tested ALL radios. and currently use the 4pk.
if your a newer racer that doesnt know how to dial your car in by radio then it might be a bit much, the newer ones have a flawless signal with no shutdowns, and the radios precision is above the rest, not as much of a necessity in off road but still nice.
3pk, nice radio, no complaints just a little akward since the brake throw is a little far and hard to use brakes consistant..(I know several dont have a problem but normal size hands do)
airtronics, definitly easy to use easy to navigate, havent used the spektrum version yet but didnt used to be the most solid signal and for sure not solid enough for onroad wire clusters. but cant comment on teh new stuff, also a battery hog
KO good stuff but I would think its about time to come out with some new stuff not jsut in the old case.
DX3- for the money for sure the best radio, ran one for years and once you get passed the weight this radio is awesome, if they had a way to lower the wheel closer to the trigger for a more precise feel I'd still be using it, good signal VERY easy to navigate and the batteries last forever.
just a little info from my standpoint of blowing tons of money on different radios..lol
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:27 AM   #23
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i'm sorry guy's but i don't see the MASS of complaint's that you are claiming?

i have searched google for the last 2 day's! and TBH i have not found anything recent/relevant? i may not be searching the correct word's so can someone kindly direct me to what i should be asking exactly on google?

it is quite possible that the early Rx's were having issues (as MANY companies do when releasing NEW product's) but i don't see it and have not seen it in recent time's. i am not saying that futaba is 100% the best be all end all radio lol all i said was my vote was for futaba and that i have not seen the complaint's that people are talking about, if you know where there are such complaint's posted PLEASE by all mean's direct me to them so that i may avoid any issues myself

i have ran with 15+ other "enthusiast's" simultaneously with everyone using various gear from RTR to full blown race and the only guy's that had issues were the RTR and Dx3r user's and that was because they had the early Rx's or w/e that had the known binding issues, they sent their gear in and spektrum repaired/replaced it and VOILA! no more trouble

my only other radio experience's have been with RTR AM stuff, JR Xs3 75synth and futaba 75synth....
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:35 AM   #24
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i'm sorry guy's but i don't see the MASS of complaint's that you are claiming?

i have searched google for the last 2 day's! and TBH i have not found anything recent/relevant? i may not be searching the correct word's so can someone kindly direct me to what i should be asking exactly on google?

it is quite possible that the early Rx's were having issues (as MANY companies do when releasing NEW product's) but i don't see it and have not seen it in recent time's. i am not saying that futaba is 100% the best be all end all radio lol all i said was my vote was for futaba and that i have not seen the complaint's that people are talking about, if you know where there are such complaint's posted PLEASE by all mean's direct me to them so that i may avoid any issues myself

i have ran with 15+ other "enthusiast's" simultaneously with everyone using various gear from RTR to full blown race and the only guy's that had issues were the RTR and Dx3r user's and that was because they had the early Rx's or w/e that had the known binding issues, they sent their gear in and spektrum repaired/replaced it and VOILA! no more trouble

my only other radio experience's have been with RTR AM stuff, JR Xs3 75synth and futaba 75synth....
I never looked it up on google. I just went to the track and saw everyone cursing at their Futaba while it sit there innocently
People I know had problems and they told me that Futaba didn't do a thing to help. That steered me away from Futaba for good. Is it documented in google? Who knows. I just know it happened.
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I was wanting to know which one would be the better buy and why? The Futaba 3pk or the Futaba 4pk.
I would get the 3PK, its modular (unlike the 4PK it has FASST only) so you can run 2.4ghz, synthesized, or crystals. When I owned the 2.4 FASST it would go into thermal protection during hot summer races and my car would run away. It actually ruined my 2008 Nationals, because I couldn't figure it out. I tried new batteries, switches, servos, and then later learned about the issue's with FASST. I now run the 3PK with the synthesized system, and absolutely LOVE this setup. I can change to any channel, and the resolution is very very good, you'll feel very connected to the car. I use a 2200mah Lipo in the radio so its super lite, and last all day no problem.
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yea i would get the futaba 3pk too i had it for 3 years no problems at all and i baseilly just use the basic steering trim etc,and some throttle and steering epectial, i was gone to get the fasst system too, i have the orignial speckum system had nothing but problems with it in nitro atlest i would shut off and sometimes it will get a little warm and rebinding itself and not having the failsafe working. i getting the pro speckum so i hope i dont have that ploblem ever again
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As previously posted I love the look and feel of the 4pk but I must say no problems with my DX3R for the last year+
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on the 3pk heat issue that would be the blue module & receiver so they realease the 3pks w/ hte orange modle & recevr (r603fs) n the heat problem are gone
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don't flame me but what seems to be the problem with the FASST system? I owned a 3pm with that system and it ran well on all my rides...so Really I was just wondering...cause i've heard numerous people on forums and around tracks saying this and running airtronics because of it..
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don't flame me but what seems to be the problem with the FASST system? I owned a 3pm with that system and it ran well on all my rides...so Really I was just wondering...cause i've heard numerous people on forums and around tracks saying this and running airtronics because of it..
I guess the explanation was heat apparently. That's what I've read.
Last I knew locals were buying new receivers that were not supposed to over heat, never found out if it worked though.
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