Rear Drive Shaft To Middle Outdrive Fit?????
#1
Rear Drive Shaft To Middle Outdrive Fit?????
Ok so some of you know that I had to service my diffs for the first time. It was a success.
My question is about the fitting from the rear drive shaft to the middle outdrive on the middle diff.
I didnt pay attention to har far inset the the drive shaft was to the middle outdrive before pulling the rear apart. After I got everything back toghether I notice that drive shaft was fitting flush in the outdrive. None of the other drive shafts fit like this one as the cross bars on the ball joint sits in the middle of the outdrive.
I tried to loosen up the middle diff from the bottom chasis to see if i could get a better fit however I had no luck.
The cross bars are sitting flush in the outdrive and it is secure its just not sitting as deep as the rest are. I spun the wheels and the rear drive shaft is engaged and everything seems to be turnning normal.
Is this normal or should I try to get a better fit before running it?
Thanks everyone.
My question is about the fitting from the rear drive shaft to the middle outdrive on the middle diff.
I didnt pay attention to har far inset the the drive shaft was to the middle outdrive before pulling the rear apart. After I got everything back toghether I notice that drive shaft was fitting flush in the outdrive. None of the other drive shafts fit like this one as the cross bars on the ball joint sits in the middle of the outdrive.
I tried to loosen up the middle diff from the bottom chasis to see if i could get a better fit however I had no luck.
The cross bars are sitting flush in the outdrive and it is secure its just not sitting as deep as the rest are. I spun the wheels and the rear drive shaft is engaged and everything seems to be turnning normal.
Is this normal or should I try to get a better fit before running it?
Thanks everyone.
#2
8ight? If so then that is correct, there isn't much of an angle on the rear center drive and i think the extra room is for chassis flex.
#3
Tech Adept
I am not sure about your particular car but try checking out how far the front center driveshaft is sticking into its outdrive. If its quite a bit deeper, or deeper at all, swap them around and check their fits.
Also make sure you didnt accidently put the center diff carriers in the wrong spot, on my make of car there is a specific front and rear carrier. Ideally, the pins should be centered in the outdrive so there is max travel in and out of the outdrive. The Losi 1/8 scales use CVDs or something similar right???? If so, you shouldnt have to seperate the center driveshafts from the pinion gears to service the center diff. Usually you remove the brake/throttle linkage, unfasten the diff carrier from the chassis and lift it straight up.
Another thing, if you disassembled your F or R pinion assemblies make absolutly sure everything is assembled how its supposed to be, refer to a manual if you have it. If your pinion gear axial endplay (front to rear play in relation to the car) is too loose, then the pinion can slide too far into the bulkhead making the driveshaft appear it is too short. This can also cause some serious damage to the ring/pinion gears and pinion bearings. Especially with the way that Losi flexes.
Good Luck!!!!
Also make sure you didnt accidently put the center diff carriers in the wrong spot, on my make of car there is a specific front and rear carrier. Ideally, the pins should be centered in the outdrive so there is max travel in and out of the outdrive. The Losi 1/8 scales use CVDs or something similar right???? If so, you shouldnt have to seperate the center driveshafts from the pinion gears to service the center diff. Usually you remove the brake/throttle linkage, unfasten the diff carrier from the chassis and lift it straight up.
Another thing, if you disassembled your F or R pinion assemblies make absolutly sure everything is assembled how its supposed to be, refer to a manual if you have it. If your pinion gear axial endplay (front to rear play in relation to the car) is too loose, then the pinion can slide too far into the bulkhead making the driveshaft appear it is too short. This can also cause some serious damage to the ring/pinion gears and pinion bearings. Especially with the way that Losi flexes.
Good Luck!!!!
#4
Tech Addict
On my rc8 you have to push the pinion from the inside of the case and then put the center driveshaft on the input making sure it is all the way on before tightening the set screw. If you can not push the pinion from the inside with your finger it will have the effect of the driveshaft appearing to be too long.You have to do this before you put the diff in the hole!I am not sure what model you have but I think this would probably be the same?
#5
On my rc8 you have to push the pinion from the inside of the case and then put the center driveshaft on the input making sure it is all the way on before tightening the set screw. If you can not push the pinion from the inside with your finger it will have the effect of the driveshaft appearing to be too long.You have to do this before you put the diff in the hole!I am not sure what model you have but I think this would probably be the same?
Sounds weird, can any other eight guys chime in? I think if you accidentally installed the shafts on the wrong side they wouldn't fit at all. Is one shaft dramaticly longer than the other? Are both center diff outdrives the same?
#6
both my eights were like this. ran fine until i would case a jump and the rear shaft would pop out. i fixed it by loosining up the set screw in the rear coupling ware it connects to the pinion shaft. their is a flat spot on the pinion shaft that is about 3/16 of an inch, this will allow for adjustment. so lossen up the set screw and pull the coupling forward as far as it can go "without" getting off that flat spot and tighten it back down. then it will be ok. but now you will have a gap between the coupling and the pinion shaft bearing. i wish i new what i used as a spacer, but i can't. i have a bunch of plastic spacers from years of racing laying around. and i now run xray so i can't even look to tell you what i might have used. but make sure you use something as a spacer so the bearing won't work it's way out of the diff case. hope this helps
Last edited by jrwoodchuck; 01-11-2009 at 08:00 AM.
#8
Called the local hobby shop no help as usual. They just said "Well if it makes a weird noise then somehting is wrong" I am going to run it and see how it does.
On the current set up I am wondering if balancing will be a problems as the front dogbone is set deeper on the outdrive and the rear dogbone is more flush. I am wondering this because both front and rear work off of the same middle drive. If anything the rear setting may cause more wear and tear and could possbily be more stressed while spinning.
I am pissed I should have looked before I pulled it apart and then I wouldnt have to worry.
If any current losi 8 buggy owners have some time can you take a quick look at yours to see if this is how its set up.