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Old 01-06-2009, 09:16 AM   #16
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i use a team magic set up station. it comes in a small carry case.
i personally would not do without mine now
The buggy is so much more consistent when put on the station. i could not get my buggy to turrn equally as good left and right until i found the toe was way out. a few of my race mates have put theres on mine and all have been way out to what they thought they were set up like. i have found my buggy much better and easier to drive so have all the people who used it. i now use my set up station before every race meeting.
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Old 01-06-2009, 10:21 AM   #17
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i use the TM station when i am at home... i make it part of my cleaning ritual to go throught the car and then put it on the setup station. all adjustments that i make a the track are made with a camber guage, digital calipers, and a droop gauge
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:54 AM   #18
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This is the part that confuses the heck outta me. I have experienced the same thing. I get one reading on my TM, then place tires back on and everything looks outta wack. I then use an RPM gauge, and sure enough, a completely different reading. I'm guessing this has to do with where each measurement is taken. With a TM/Hudy etc, the measurement is taken as close to the hub as possible, which would equate to the inside of the tire. When using a camber gauge, the measurement is at the wheel, which effectively is the total oposite, which would equate to the outside of the tire.
IMHO, the settings I get from the camber gauge look better, so I have been using it more and more often.
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Old 01-06-2009, 12:18 PM   #19
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Simple explanation really. Spin the tire. Check camber. Spin check, spin check. Were all the camber readings the same. If they weren't you got a nice warped wheel. I did.

The Car isn't symetrical. From the rear view your rear camber should allways appear off. Optical illusion on my car thanks to the body being shaped weird and the engine on that side.

Was the suspension cycled and bounced while on the station. Then check the readings on the setup station again. Maybe the station was binding or there is play in the suspension that needs to be accounted for. Did you set up the car with the radio and servos on. That helps some.

Droop is a nightmare I have to crank my screws in, cycle the suspension, then back the screws out to the right length. If I tighten the screws instead to get the right reading it'll allways bind and have a different setting when the suspension is moved.

Theres probally more I'm missing. But there is an art to getting the right settings into a car, Rc or real.
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:18 PM   #20
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Camber gauge useless imho. Hudy station ftw.
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:27 PM   #21
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Set a Pepsi can next to your tire and eyeball it.
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thanks bulldog. I think I only post here to practice on my sarcasm.
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Set a Pepsi can next to your tire and eyeball it.
Yea why not...done it quite a few times. I have also used gauges and set up stations and they can take a lot of stuffing around to get it right when you use them all at the same time....one say's one thing the other say's another thing.
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i have a hard time adjusting my toe, so i use a set-up system at home so i know i am in the ballpark. at the track it is just a simple check with the camber guage.
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thanks guys im going to take car to track tomorrow re try it out and see what it does.. I think the set up station may be right but if not ill use coke can and eye it out...
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Hudy over here......and ive had the same thing as vnmsgt...people commenting on how the car looks funny.....(you mean a properly set-up car)
I used to eyeball it and with doing it that way the camber guage was usually close to what I wanted. After using the Hudy and setting it up that way and even though everything looked wierd the car handled so much better it was not even funny. I now go by what the hudy says and not pay attention to what it really looks like OR what people say, because it just plain works for me.
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Here is a quote from Drake regarding setup stations
"I don't use a set-up station. I just roll the car or truck up to a wall and use a camber gauge on the wall to measure toe."

This is found on the Drake 2.0 thread.
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:35 PM   #28
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I use an rpm camber gauge and a toe guage. Plop the car down take a measurement, then I rotate the tires about 180 degrees plop it down and check the measurements again.

A pop can works good too. A 1/16 inch gap at the top is about 1 degree negative on a buggy tire.
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Here is a quote from Drake regarding setup stations
"I don't use a set-up station. I just roll the car or truck up to a wall and use a camber gauge on the wall to measure toe."

This is found on the Drake 2.0 thread.

95% of guys are NOT drake tho...and dont have a the slightest clue what 1 degree looks like compared to 2....imo stations serve their purpose...but i can almost guarantee ANY pro will admit to Not using one....they know how 1 degree feels compared to 2....therefor all they have to do is look at the truck to know what it needs.....so like i said..they have their place.
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That place is the garbage can. If a newby cant use a simple camber gauge how the hell is he going to use a complicated set up station.
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