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Old 01-04-2009, 08:43 PM   #1
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Default One more Mugen MBX6 build question.....

In regard to installing the rear lower arms. On the front of the rear diff case there is an aluminum lower arm support, the setup sheet shows the use of the centered plastic guides to hold the pin. On the rear of the diff housing the setup sheet shows to use the 0/3 (0 anti-squat/ 3 Toe Angle), but with this plate installed on the rear diff housing the pins will not pass through. Is this a mistake on the setup sheet?

It looks as if the 0/3 (E0147E) plate might allow the pins to line up, but then this is not the setting used on the setup sheet.
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it will work. the inserts are not angled so it mat be a little difficult, but it will work.
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The bolts will pass through, its the toe that angles the bolts, so it looks crooked, but the plastic will flex for it to work. We are using the -1/3 rear toe block with the front centered bushings. Take bushing out, run the bolt though, then install the bushing onto the bolt and press it into the front AL support and install the nut.
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Thanks! I will give it a try. It just didn't feel right forcing the pin at that angle, but it makes sense.

[IMG]The bolts will pass through, its the toe that angles the bolts, so it looks crooked, but the plastic will flex for it to work. We are using the -1/3 rear toe block with the front centered bushings. Take bushing out, run the bolt though, then install the bushing onto the bolt and press it into the front AL support and install the nut.[/IMG]

Which back plate gives -1/3? What made you run this setting? I was following the Mugen Setup sheet to get a baseline.
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Thanks! I will give it a try. It just didn't feel right forcing the pin at that angle, but it makes sense.

[IMG]The bolts will pass through, its the toe that angles the bolts, so it looks crooked, but the plastic will flex for it to work. We are using the -1/3 rear toe block with the front centered bushings. Take bushing out, run the bolt though, then install the bushing onto the bolt and press it into the front AL support and install the nut.[/IMG]

Which back plate gives -1/3? What made you run this setting? I was following the Mugen Setup sheet to get a baseline.
We based our settings off of Kenji Osaka's Futaba track setup:

http://www.mugenseiki.com/images/mbx...-eko_tract.pdf

If you have the newer kit, your closer to this setup than the older kit. Diffs 5/7/2, unlike what's on the setup sheet.
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We based our settings off of Kenji Osaka's Futaba track setup:

http://www.mugenseiki.com/images/mbx...-eko_tract.pdf

If you have the newer kit, your closer to this setup than the older kit. Diffs 5/7/2, unlike what's on the setup sheet.
My kit included the 5/7/2 diff fluid. But I set the middle diff w/ the 5, so I'm currently building w/ 5/5/2. I could change the center diff to 7 since it's not even in the car yet. How does changing from 5-7 in the center diff really affect the handling. I know it will send more power to the front wheels, but it is that noticeable? Which one will give more OFF the throttle steering?
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We used the 5/5/2 diff oils but the front tires were wearing out faster. Too much front tire wheel spin, so we changed it to 5/7/2. Front tire wear is alot better and it has better forward acceleration. We saw no change to on or off power steering with 7K center diff oil. Front diff oil will change that. Higher front, more on power/less off power is the general rule of thumb, but you have to try it and see. As you can see with the Kenji setup, he runs 7/5/2, which I hear most say they like and it really hasn't changed the off power steering. Get your car up and running first so you can baseline your cars performance. I know using the newer kit softer springs and swaybars calms the car down compared to the harder springs and swaybars.
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