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Old 09-22-2008, 07:34 AM   #46
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I can see it already -- bunches of folks all a-lathered and in a tither, banging on the hobby shop doors this morning, trying to acquire or placing their order for ... only run no better with it next year than they ran with whatever this year.


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Old 09-22-2008, 11:44 AM   #47
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I just wonder are Losi, AE, Hot bodie made in USA ? ... I mean manufacturing

At least Hot bodies give an alternative to Hobao cars
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:06 PM   #48
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Most if not all 1/8 cars kits are made overseas, or at least the components are.

The HB is cerainly not a Losi copy but it does flatter it by using some of the things that make a Losi good. The rear pivot blocks are wide and the rear arms are shorter. Losi was first with this change buy Odonell has it, Xray experimented with it prior to using it in the 808 and Jammin have been running a similar setup. It's one of the things that make the Losi (and HB) quick to change directions. Front end design is similar, and Losi used a shorter shock with bigger bore on the rear, HB has gone a step farther and is using a VERY short rear shock setup. Not a copy or a clone but it does acknowledge some of Losi's innovations.
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Old 09-22-2008, 02:02 PM   #49
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I just wonder are Losi, AE, Hot bodie made in USA ? ... I mean manufacturing

At least Hot bodies give an alternative to Hobao cars
I don't think any buggy is made in the USA. Mugen, Kyosho and HB are Japanese. AE & Losi are US companies but the car is made in China. Xray is Slovakian made with German machined equipment. Ofna/Jammin is China also.
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Old 09-22-2008, 02:12 PM   #50
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There's not much of anything being made in the US these days. Maybe some of the tires but that's about it.
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Old 09-22-2008, 02:24 PM   #51
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I posted in the main D8 thread for my first post and I will post here as well.

I find the HB/HPI performance at the world to be staggering, fast from the get-go even when fast guys like Amezuca got bogged down in the earlier runs with the worst of the weather. They stayed very reliable from the reports all week while other brands were replacing shock towers and the like frequently and with a smaller number of team members went out their and grabbed the headlining 4 spots in the final and then the win! Awesome!

This really made me happy to see, they designed and built it well that this base car (we all know and upgraded version is inevitable and options in the near future) can be competitive and have everything needed to win races on a budget. Why was I happy? It sends a signal that you don't need to be drowning in CF and Titanium (although Hara did seem to have a touch of the latter) not to mention the expenses of those materials to have a championship vehicle.

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Old 09-22-2008, 02:59 PM   #52
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Do that on your own time Mister not while you're typing on this forum!!!! Haha.
Sorry, wrong forum!!
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Old 09-22-2008, 03:45 PM   #53
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losi and associated are NOT made in china. There is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between japan, taiwan and chinese manufacturing, chinese being ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE!

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doesnt the h/b cyclone cost more than the d8? Thats crazy. I would like to try one out. But my only gripe about the car is it just looks like it has to much plastic. And the way the steering sero is stood up and facing a different direction than what we are use to seeing. Niether one of these probaly hurt at all just looks a little cheap thats all.
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losi and associated are NOT made in china. There is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between japan, taiwan and chinese manufacturing, chinese being ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE!

Taiwan, R.O.C.

Yes there is a difference, if you go there and supervise the work, there's the difference.
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Losi parts are made in Taiwan, Associated parts are made in China, and HB, Kyosho, Mugen are made in Japan.
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i bet the hotbodies is not made in japan its either gonna be china or taiwan, the company may be based in japan but they couldnt sell it for the price they do if it was made in japan
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i deal with a chinese factory daily and let me tell you, the difference is much more than you might think.
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i deal with a chinese factory daily and let me tell you, the difference is much more than you might think.
Thats my point, if you watch over the factory output, you can control what comes out and correct issues, if not, your done for!
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