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Old 09-17-2008, 12:59 PM   #1
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I am curious as to what everyone's preferred track surface is....Where I run the track is just made from black dirt, it works okay but it is very far from ideal....Our club is growing and its time to be considering a new facility and track surface..... I am rather lost as to what all the different options are as well as any different pro's and cons....We obviously want some type of clay track, some of our club have suggested using pure clay others say you must make a mix using clay and other substrates... Where we live we do have an abundance of very fine grey colored clay, the stuff will dry so hard that chunks will have a semi polished sheen to it... we also have huge amounts of black top soil and fine white sand...... We have unlimited water supply and would be willing to build a sprinkler system if we needed to keep the surface moist .......Anyways any suggestions and advice would be greatly appreciated
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:49 PM   #2
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My club is about to commence construction of a brand new facility and track. Where we are located, the natural ground is primarily red volcanic clay/soil, (Very similar in appearance to the "Farm2" surface.) Another track about 4 hours away is constructed out of decomposed granite, and although it hooks up very well when slightly moist, It is very abrasive on chassis and skid plates.
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:44 PM   #5
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:03 PM   #6
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1. Asphalt

2. Carpet

3. Moist, blue groove red clay.

4. Concrete.

5. The best dirt I ever raced off road on was some really soft, loamy, black stuff the track owner found somewhere. Monster traction and low tire wear. The only problem was that the tires would turn green and it had a bit of a foul smell. I don't want to know where that nasty stuff came from.
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:25 PM   #7
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Soft, loamy, loose, wet, DIRT!
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Clay and mixture of sand. My local track is by a river that has flooded 3time this summer. so we have a LARGE sand content which makes it hard to get traction, but a lil sand is good.
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:35 PM   #10
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Good ole Georgia red clay!
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:40 PM   #11
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Consistent Loose Dirt.

What's the point of running off-road and striving to have a surface with perfect traction like on-road? Can't even drift around corners.
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It depends on the situation. For just a club race where you have fun with your buddies and enjoy yourself, a correctly watered dirt track is the way to go. It keeps everyone happier this way. Examples less wear and tear on your car, less tire wear, minimal if any dust, less filters being used, and the improved traction makes it easier for all drivers to hammer down and have fun.
For a major event I think a dry track is the way to go, this way everybody gets the same track. If you race outdoors and an event is run wet, unless you frequently water not every racer will get the same track. Not everyone can go as fast on a dry track vs wet track and vice versa. Just my .02
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Good ole Georgia red clay!
That would be my choice, they used to truck that stuff in for the winternats in Tampa. We would have so much traction by the end of the weekend my truck would wheely and almost flip if I mashed the throttle going onto the straight!
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There is both an indoor and outdoor offroad track at my nearest track facility. I prefer the indoor because it's super high bite clay, and very technical. The track makes for really fun racing, and it isn't dusty/muddy. Plus it's the track that I have the best tires for (boa clays). The outdoor track is the usually farm dirt that eventually blue grooves up and gets rutty. It can be hard on tires, and it's never really consistent. At first it's muddy because of the watering, then it gets dusty, and then rutty, and then hard blue groove that's kind of dusty.
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You have to race on astroturf to understand the kick. Like outdoor carpet racing with jumps and bumps...
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