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Old 08-31-2008, 09:21 AM   #31
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And another friendly hint, don't order anything from them unless the item is in stock, or it might be on backorder for quite a long time. Even then, I only order if stock is showing 10 or more, because you might be charged and waiting a while.
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good arguments here, ep vs gp, yea your not wrong in that ep is a little leathal hehe, i remember having my 1700mah on charge and then by accident forgot to check it, and it was close to exploding!!!, i was like wtf, grabed the bloody thing by the cable and threw it outside, and then 1min later you hear BOOOOOOM!!! it was like a TNT had gone of, went down to have a look and i see 1 half of the battery one side of the room and other on the other side burned paper..., quiet scary but amusing at the same time, but never again will i use a cable based charger hehe thats a big misstake, charger is safer at least it stops when it is done and beeps, if your well informed in nitro engines and the rest and read up everyday then it isnt such a hassel , ive played with many classes and had fun in all, but like most its the realism and the insane acceleration and speeds that you can get out of somthing thats only 1/8th scaled, rc drag car for eg 250km/h Nitro! down a say 1/4mile or less, faak.

thats why we have so many different classes, to accomodate those who enjoy chillin and just go and drive and then theres those who like to solve issues and find solutions fix and race and then those who are hard core racers who are emersed in it all from top to bottom and full on serious, from setting up, tuneing, to mixing their own fuel, painting new bodies... having all the bets gear and just going to the limit...

but hey its entertaining to watch those who make it entertaining to watch the hardcores and pro's.

just reminded myself of one day when i was watching a 1/8th buggy race and i was at the side line and wam a buggy flies past my head brushes my ear , i was thinking hmmm what just happened shit, nearly lost a eye! , nuts.

the new class will just make space for new hobbiests and experienced and as time goes it ll be like a convaderbelt one have matured and a new one comes along and fills the spot...
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Nitro will be here to stay! A motorhead is a motorhead whether it has 1 cylinder or 8 or 12. That being said there is a place for both of them. I too am addicted to the smell/sound but that brings me back to running alcohol modifieds at the dirt track. Electric will always have more torq that is electric. Too say one is better than the other is pure bs its all in the racers preference. One stated no one could pass him until the corner thats great in a drag race but nothing else. I know he also said that it was also his ability. The faster you go the sooner and harder you have to break its physics. So for the electric guys yours isn't better but just better for you. I ran electric for heck 20 years and now at 40 back into it with an 8ight and loving it. Just as much hassles with electric as nitro just different. I'm an licensed electrician/automation specialist and deal with motors that are 100's of horse power as well as servo motors but with nitro all i have to worry about is the air to fuel ratio. Electric you can't see the electrons and there are more failure point with electric with every connection is a possible failure point. That being said it all in the buyer what he's comfortable with and enjoys. Personnaly now electric is for indoors.
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Sounds like one of them whiny electric guys. You make the same whiny squeaky as your electric cars do. The noise, the dust, I hate pitting for them, I hate marshalling them, I burnt my hand. I burnt my hand before on electric cars before did you see me cry about NO. Or we want our race day with nitro cars it's our quiet day. Also seems the ones who can't keep nitro car running are the biggest cry babies about it (who tried and gave up). Running a nitro car really isn't hard or cost more.

You miss the point about nitro cars it's about making run the whole race without breaking or dying. The really good poeple can keep them running. Thats it close to full size race car like pitting and etc.
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I love the smell, noise, the things that make nitro, nitro. U must tune all kinds of things with nitro, makes it more fun. All my motors fire rite over, always. I have all the power Ill ever need. And i just love that I can fill up a tank and be gone.

And i swear, some brushless people are so cocky. "My brushless car can beat your car no problem its so cool and better than your car"

I think thats childish, and gonna do nothing for the sport. Idc what your dang car can do, just beat me, THEN brand about how awesome your car is. Its just dumb and annoying.

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rite...beating u with a motor they just bolted in... at least with a brushed motor there is tunning envolved ...
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Nitro is for the mechanics and maintainers... (<-- true hobbiest)

Electric is for the drivers... (<-- innovators and those that just like to drive)

Beating electrics with nitros, well...
Thats for the professional.
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I agree. I love my nitro. Part of nitro is maintaining it. Tearing it down, finding whats broke/bent/dirty and fixing it. I've never said nitro is BETTER than electric. BUT to me it is. Everyone one has there own opinion and mine is nitro is here to stay. I believe that when electric 1/8ths get bigger, nitro car counts will go down, but thats another argument. I won't leave my nitro on the shelf. I will admit it is EXPENSIVE but its fun. Just remember you can always spend your money in worst places!
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ROTFL Yeah let's see the electrics run for an hour long main and still be clean..... and not have bent /broken /mangled parts. About the only thing I see that might be a bit different is the smeg from the exhaust and spilt fuel.
Speedos fry and batteries go up in smoke if geared wrong, and the drive train gets totally torchered from a lack of a slipper type clutch. Batteries are expensive, speedos are as well. Then you need a good powersupply and chargers. Gad zukes!! This crap is expensive!! But on the good side one little mistake (like airfilter missing a ziptie) and your nitro engine is a paper weight!!
But same errors can be made with electrics too . Wrong gearing choice and your motor could go up in smoke or your speedo or both !
I don't see electric 1/8th as an issue as of yet so I wouldn't sweat it .
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electric is for those lazy guys who dont like to play with their cars or for a loner/basher so your "real" car doesnt ger broken
Are you kidding me, all must be from the deep south. It is funny to see people put down things they know nothing about, especially when it is in the same hobby. To all the people quoted above, dont hurt yourself thinking about this one but, WE ARE ALL PLAYING WITH TOYS!!!
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I can see how we may end up with 2 classes... i suspect though that Nitro will end up as the more looked up upon formula, my guess is people will see electric as a plug in and play whereas Nitro will be seen as the big boys serious fun racing and where the pros will be. If anything i can see pro's running them like they do Truggy, at big events.


It would be cool to see electric 1/8th become a class, my money is on it becoming the entry class and probaby seeing the end of RTR Nitro Buggys... Truggies probably not as they are much more of the "bashers" choice.
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Are you kidding me, all must be from the deep south. It is funny to see people put down things they know nothing about, especially when it is in the same hobby. To all the people quoted above, dont hurt yourself thinking about this one but, WE ARE ALL PLAYING WITH TOYS!!!

Sure they are toys, but something people put a lot of time, money and effort into as a hobby. It's also an industry that continualy changes and advances ... and people are interested in that and have opinions about their hobby and their passion.

Sure they are toys at the baseline, and sure not everyone is super smart about it - people are people, some rude, some smart, some educated, some over-opinionated... but to try and reduce peoples thoughts and feelings on a subject on the absolute bottom line of talking about toys is just a little harsh don't you think?
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I can see how we may end up with 2 classes... i suspect though that Nitro will end up as the more looked up upon formula, my guess is people will see electric as a plug in and play whereas Nitro will be seen as the big boys serious fun racing and where the pros will be. If anything i can see pro's running them like they do Truggy, at big events.


It would be cool to see electric 1/8th become a class, my money is on it becoming the entry class and probaby seeing the end of RTR Nitro Buggys... Truggies probably not as they are much more of the "bashers" choice.
I definitely see two classes forming. I also agree that electric will probably have more beginners and club racers as it is a lot easier to get started and catch on with electric. Electric 1/8's got me back into a hobby that I had all but written off 20 years ago. Last year I discovered brushless/lipos could provide more performance than nitro and I was back in. When I grew up, electric was slow and nitro was fast, now that has changed. I would have loved to go with nitro but it isn't practical living in a big city.

However, I do think you will see quite a few pro drivers choosing electric simply due to the performance aspect. A lot of competitors simply want to get around the track faster and if electric is what does it, then that is what they will race. Electric cars will also change the track layouts a bit - larger jumps which is another reason I think it would attract a lot of pro drivers.

I see nitro becoming a diehard kind of class. Very few beginners, nothing but serious racers who just love the sound and mess of nitro. Electric will probably be a more diverse group of racers - beginners to the serious guys.
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Are you kidding me, all must be from the deep south. It is funny to see people put down things they know nothing about, especially when it is in the same hobby. To all the people quoted above, dont hurt yourself thinking about this one but, WE ARE ALL PLAYING WITH TOYS!!!
Actually, its 'funny' to see someone put down someone they know nothing about. I am not sure what I said that you took as putting anything down, but I did not intend to do so. As can be seen from my sig, I drive both. As to put my(our) knowledge of the subject down, shame on you. If you want to flame, go somewhere else please. This topic is about your THOUGHTS on what electric will do to nitro [or not do].

BTW, there is nothing wrong with playing with toys.
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very well put edumakated....we must have the same crystal ball....
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no actually i was very efficient in keeping my nitros running for entire Amains. as i recall i only fell outta 2 in 3yrs. 1 an arm in warmup that i couldnt change fast enuff and 2nd when a jr receiver failed. much of that came from excessive and intensive labor in between races ensuring to its fitness.

its just not my taste, but i wanted to emphasize that nitro going away doesnt help the hobby. there's a place for it and there are many folks who like it. the cost of each argument is BS. we all know that most of us spend too much on the hobby regardless of platform. hate to see nitro actually go back to what it was 20yrs ago which is a niche group in small pockets that most people dont get to see.

honestly what needs to be done is tracks need to try and grab ahold of all, and on a club level, just gettin every1 to run and have a good time. too much focus on rules, b/c every1 feels they have right to win. should just be bout gettin out there and havin fun, helpin the hobby grow. now should we turn off the scoring counters (and thus put an end to AMBs monopoly) like little league is doing. No. just need to do what it takes to get the hobby to grow. Better for all. So if a guy shows up with an electric, treat em as a equal, not some tool who cant deal with a motor. Same goes for Flashlights, guy or gal shows up with a noisemaker and struggles to keep it running--if you know how to help, offer.

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just need to do what it takes to get the hobby to grow. Better for all. So if a guy shows up with an electric, treat em as a equal, not some tool who cant deal with a motor. Same goes for Flashlights, guy or gal shows up with a noisemaker and struggles to keep it running--if you know how to help, offer.
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This is funny, about 6 or so years ago. The animosity between Helicopters and Planks was at an all time high. My first love before cars is helicopters. And as they got more popular the airplane guys really started to hate us. Well in colorado they did. I learned how to fly helis in SC about 15 years ago. the flying field was small and only had 1 runway. The plankers and helis were forced to get along. And we did extreamly well. We would help each other out at funflys and it was very peicefull. Then I moved to Colorado, it felt like a slap in the face. Talk about segragation. There were fights breaking out between both of us. I don't understand why. The thing that I kept quite in Colorado was that I also have a couple of giant scale airplanes. But telling people them that I did both, I though an hanging was going to happin. I'm now in Dallas and havn't been to the flying fields yet. So we will see. I started this thread about Nitro going away, not to start a fight. Like I said, I like racing both. I just like my nitro 1/8th and my electric 1/10th.
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Actually, its 'funny' to see someone put down someone they know nothing about. I am not sure what I said that you took as putting anything down, but I did not intend to do so. As can be seen from my sig, I drive both. As to put my(our) knowledge of the subject down, shame on you. If you want to flame, go somewhere else please. This topic is about your THOUGHTS on what electric will do to nitro [or not do].

BTW, there is nothing wrong with playing with toys.
I wouldnt consider that flaming but I also consider electric drivers true hobbyists.
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Electric touring cars haven't replaced nitro touring cars. Enough said
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man its all personal preference ive ran nitro for 5 years and i just sold my nitro stuff this spring just cause i was burned out on always tuning/cleaning and tinkering. lipo/brushless has been alot more fun this year and i cant wait for my losi 8e to show up. nitro wont go away but the 8th scale electric will have some converting and bring some newbys to this racing hobby wich is always good. its always good to be open minded.
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trdsupra88 go try you form BS on someone else.

""I wouldnt consider that flaming but I also consider electric drivers true hobbyists."" This right here shows how much of a joke you are
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