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Old 08-27-2008, 04:51 AM   #1
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any idea how much it cost?
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Good looking car, that front shock area is a little odd looking, be interesting to see how it handles. Any idea if any HS's will carry it here in the states?
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protech distribution in western europe
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Old 08-27-2008, 05:54 AM   #5
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Good looking car, that front shock area is a little odd looking, be interesting to see how it handles. Any idea if any HS's will carry it here in the states?
+1 on the odd looking shock mounting scheme... however, that doesn't mean it is BAD, just different.

I wish they had a better (bigger) straight-on front and rear view. I'd like to see what angle the shocks are at to the actual pivot points (inner hinge pin and shock lower end mount.) It isn't as acute of an angle as it looks like it is... but I think it is still a pretty tight angle. Great for nice, groomed, European style tracks, great cornering traction... but pretty unstable on rough tracks and big "supercross" style jumps like typical US tracks have would be my guess. (Generally speaking, you lean the shocks in more for more side bite, and stand them up more for better performance in the rough.)

Looks like it is pretty well built and well designed. I personally don't like "pivot ball" front ends, but that's just me. Also it looks like they put a little better servos (based on the numbers, dunno what the quality is actually like) than the typical RTR.

It will be interesting to see how this buggy does... looks like they paid pretty close attention to the details, so that's a good sign.
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Yeah I suspect it would struggle on the blown out tracks around here (some of them are better for rock crawling) but I really like the easy access to the diffs.
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Yeah I suspect it would struggle on the blown out tracks around here (some of them are better for rock crawling) but I really like the easy access to the diffs.
The interesting thing is, if they had made the "lower end" mount for the shock taller and laid the shock flatter than they did... the actual working angle would have been more like a "conventional" buggy. Of course that raises the CG, so it's a trade-off.

I always thought a good way to lower the CG would be to invert the shocks, like a motorcycle fork... but then again, that increases unsprung weight, so again it is a trade-off.
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I saw one in action several times
...the track is dusty
and rough
and has us -style jumps
seems to drive and jump like any other major buggybrand...
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Looks like a solidly built car, carbon fiber in the right areas for weight reduction, aluminum in the areas that need that, innovative design for sure. Looks like the hardest battle for drivers would be part support. Ishima is from Hong Kong according to there site. I'd like to give it try. I like the smaller lesser known companies as oppossed to the ae, losi, kyosho, and mugens of the world.
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sales really booming in Europe..
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I have made a set of shock towers like that for my spare Caster ZX-1R.
Will be running it next week.

The Ishima is 85% identical to the ZX-1R just teh shock setup, front upper arm and radio box cover is different as well as the HD wingand mount.

Have been getting good results in Belgium but will have to see over the next few months.
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i like how you can play with the caster and rear toe and anti dive and stuff with out buying new parts...
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carbon parts by Model Concept
they will make some for the OCM buggy too

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