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Old 06-10-2008, 08:23 PM   #1
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who has run beadlocks and liked them? which brand is a good wheel to go with for them? who does not like them and why?

any info is greatly appreciated!

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I should invent beadlocks for 1/8 buggies. I think bashers would love them as well as people who get their fingers stuck together with the glue. LOL.

otherwise start here...

http://www.maximizerproducts.com/
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beadlocks would be a bashers dream!!
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Not for racers though. People like to have several sets ready. No time to change beadlocks. Plus wheels usually get scuffed up pretty bad. New tire/new wheels
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I've got Maximizer's on my 6x6 E-Maxx and I gotta say, best $30/pair I've ever spent on wheels for anything.

@air8 - They're not beadlocks but in my spare time at work I've been modeling up a new kind of 2.2" stadium truck wheel that's half inspired by a short track wheel from the 1:1 world known as a "wide-5". When I'm done I'll have a two-piece wheel where the center section stays on the truck and the tire itself is just glued to the rim shell. The rim shells fit universally between front and rear and molding a pair of them almost HAS to be cheaper than molding a one-piece wheel with a center. The software I'm using has a physical properties calculator, so I'm going to try and get the weight as competitive to a one-piece wheel as possible (so far, a wheel with a rear hub and a mudplug comes in a 3.45 grams, and I can still get it lighter). I showed my design so far to one of our machinists and he's pretty confident he can machine me a few sets of prototypes out of nylon.

The rim shell as I have it modeled right now even comes with mounting tabs for an .030" Lexan mudplug
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:37 PM   #6
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I've run beadlocks on my truggy a couple of times. I find them to be a bit heavier than standard tire/rim combinations. For bashing, there is nothing better. For racing, not too crazy about them. I used the Maximizer 17mm rims with Proline Crimefighters.
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:56 PM   #7
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I ran Maximizer beadlocks with the "rage rings" with truggy tires and they didn't work very well. I know what I'm doing and still the tire would start to pull from the "lock" no matter what I did. It never threw a tire, but after a race you could see the tire coming off on at least one tire...

You also need to check the screws after each run to make sure they are tight.


I thought I'd be saving money, but its not really worth it. You get about 2ish uses out of the rims before the screws won't hold or the holes are too big....

In the end its just easier to run glued tires for racing....
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That sounds like a very unique idea that could turn into something big. Whenever you finish them let us know how they work out.
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http://www.axialracing.com/


They have some good beadlocks as well .
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That sounds like a very unique idea that could turn into something big. Whenever you finish them let us know how they work out.
Whenever I finish them and get a patent on them, I'll let you know how they work out

First time I race with these things, you'd better believe the mudplugs won't be clear
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damn this creator's pride of mine

OK, here's a taste:

And for anyone who's thinking of trying to reverse-engineer this picture, since I took it I caught a couple of huge design flaws and am working on fixes, so DON'T BOTHER! Next time anyone sees these wheels I'm gonna be selling 'em!
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im going to steal your design and get it patented before you. not. but it looks cool and if you could machine those out of nylon that would be cool.

i would think putting lock tite on those screws may help them not slip so much? but i have made my decision to not run them because they sound like a unwanted pain in the ass. but maybe later down the road.
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The Maximizers are plastic on plastic, so loctite won't work.

I've had 3 sets of the Maximizers and still have one set NIP on my shelf.

I also weighed the beadlocks with tires mounted vs a standard set with glued rims. The weight of the beadlocks is the equivalent of adding another complete tire/rim to your glued set-up. So they are substantially heavier....


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i would think putting lock tite on those screws may help them not slip so much? but i have made my decision to not run them because they sound like a unwanted pain in the ass. but maybe later down the road.
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There isn't enough detail for anyone to reverse engineer it. Personally, I think the 3 screws holding the tire to the rim are not going to be sufficient. Looking at real beadlocks and the Maximizers, they use multiple screws and barely hold the tire on.

RC's spin their tires much harder and faster than a 1:1 vehicle.

The only beadlock design I've seen work successfully are the HPI Baja rims and TIRES. The key part to the Baja design is actually in the tires. The bead is designed slightly different... Take a look at the HPI Baja rims and tires to get an idea of what works...


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Those 3 button heads aren't for beadlocks, they hold the mudplug cover on.

http://diamondracingwheels.com/mudplug.html

Like I said, these aren't beadlock wheels but they do try to use the concept of being able to put any tire on any wheel. You'd just have to buy a few sets of rim shells, the centers would never leave the truck.

...Unless you stripped out a rear center. Who else here has ever had a rear wheel come loose and the wheel pin drills out the keyways in the wheel? Wheel's junk and that pair of tires has to be shelved for the night, right? With my wheels, you could just replace the damaged centers and keep running your favorite set of rear tires in under 10 minutes.
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