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Old 12-19-2008, 07:35 AM   #46
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Does anyone have a estimate of what the new buggy will cost?

With the diff kit and composite upgrade kit that CEN has released the cost is already around $220. And they haven't released an upgrade kit with lighter CVD's or driveshafts yet.

If the kit is in the $350-$400 price range. It would be just easier and almost cheaper to buy a brand new Matrix II kit.

By the way, I'm happy with my current Matrix and have no plans to upgrade my Matrix or buy a new Matrix II kit. But I'm kind of a calm, controlled impulse buyer when it comes to RC cars and parts!!
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The Matrix R2 RTR will retail for $299. R2 Pro is due out by spring. Not sure on the street price on that one, which will be the new race buggy.

FYI, the R2 RTR is geared towards the club racer, where ROAR minimum weight requirements dont typically apply (weighs < 3200g), and engine displacement isnt restricted to a .21 (comes with a Corsa .28).

That said, you can significantly lighten your FRE with the composite radio tray, a-arms, and diffs. Not sure if the new diffs will work on a BCE Truggy conversion, but I will hopefully have the answer to that next week.

I've actually done a lot to lighten my BCE Matrix truggy, but am still experimenting. I believe that the new upper arms will work with some lunsford rods, but I'm running Gene's for now.

New wheels... They're extremely light and seem very strong, and measure 46mm x 80mm, if I remember my measurements correctly.
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:26 AM   #48
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:30 AM   #49
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shouldn't get your hopes up to high on the diffs working. the main reason for using the hotbodies ring and pinion is bc of the spiral/helical cuts of the gears. to run the new diffs you will probably have to go back to the larger tr spur gear.
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The blue parts are the new option parts, and will be part of the R2 Pro kit. There will be a full listing on the last page of the R2 manual.

I havent tried matching the bolt patterns on the diffs yet, but I'm going to try and trim one of the old gaskets to work with the new diffs and the gears I put on there. Either way, my truggy is ridiculously light (as compared to the standard TR).
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The blue parts are the new option parts, and will be part of the R2 Pro kit. There will be a full listing on the last page of the R2 manual.

I havent tried matching the bolt patterns on the diffs yet, but I'm going to try and trim one of the old gaskets to work with the new diffs and the gears I put on there. Either way, my truggy is ridiculously light (as compared to the standard TR).
So are the blue parts made by CEN ? I was under the impression they were Hickerson's parts.
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Old 12-19-2008, 11:37 AM   #52
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Gene's parts are the upper a-arms, crosspins, ackerman, and engine mounts. (BTW, these are AWESOME!!) They are a lighter blue. The Cen parts will be a darker blue.

Also notice that the rear hubs have small bearings on the inner side. starting with the R2 RTR, all driveline bearings are 8x16x5mm. This should make things easier to stock spare bearings.
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Old 12-22-2008, 03:43 PM   #53
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The Matrix R2 RTR in stock next week @ Machine's R/C Hobbies
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:30 PM   #54
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Awesome, Gene! Will you be selling online?
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heres the conversion kit for only 70
http://www.cenracingdirect.com/index...OD&ProdID=4351
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:57 PM   #56
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MSRP is $299.

Keep in mind that this is the new RTR... not the new pro model. There will also be a C2-B and the R2 Pro next year.

however, this is a 7lb RTR club racer. It comes with a Corsa .28 pullstart w/ a roto start option. You can still put the C1 billet shock towers (or carbon) and CVDs on this one, but this thing will be pretty strong right out of the box.

The only suggestions I'd make are the new billet knuckles (when we have them out) and a faster steering servo.
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heres the conversion kit for only 70
http://www.cenracingdirect.com/index...OD&ProdID=4351
Thats only for the plastics... radio tray, a-arms, dirt guard nacelles, and wing mount. It does not include the differentials or lightweight driveshafts. No body either.

Also, the clear version of the new body will be the same as the current one. Watch www.cenforums.com for updates!
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Here you have some pics of the RTR R2 i just received (hope the PRO comes to the market very soon) ... looks great, cant think on a better RTR as close as racing ready as this one, and just gained a new driver lol !! :








































(extra comments as answers on other forum) :

Sat or sunday will tear the RTR apart just to "know it" better and
change the oils to my usual setups.

I do agree on the phillips screws for beginers, in fact i usually use
Tony's Screw kits but i will change the stock ones only when they need
to be replaced not before.

Shocks are 16mm

Front axles are universals/cv's and rear ones are dogbones, center
shafts are dogbones, all very thin and lightweight as the ones i know
from the worlds, now we have 8x16mm all over the place so no more "big
bearings" on the rear, the car seems very very light compared to prior
car ... radio plate/battery box in one piece seems very smart idea, very
low weight too, im dying to try the car at the track.

Composite shocks mhhhh at first sight when i saw them i though maybe not
a good idea, but i already dissasembled them and they are rock solid, so
i will race-test them without any doubt. Stock silver springs feel
like in between of white and silvers from jammins so im happy with them.

As i have my first race of the 2009 season next weekend 10th and 11th im
seriously thinking on race the RTR as "stock" as possible.

as i tear it apart i will get more pics of it ...

and about the painting scheme ... AWESOME

cya guys !!
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awesome, Pato! I'm debating on waiting for the the pro or buying one now and then getting the pro as well. Sheesh... that would be 4 Cen vehicles!

BTW, are you going to swap out the dogbones for the C1 FRE CVDs, or just run it like it is?
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awesome, Pato! I'm debating on waiting for the the pro or buying one now and then getting the pro as well. Sheesh... that would be 4 Cen vehicles!

BTW, are you going to swap out the dogbones for the C1 FRE CVDs, or just run it like it is?

Nope, for now i will try the car AS IS, i think the only "upgrade" will be the front knuckles as i will install the red ones, other than that, nothing. Lets see what happens

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