Team Associated RC8RS RTR
#17
It's a freakin' RTR!!
So what if it it includes a .28. The majority of buyers will probably never race this buggy and even if thay did, most club races allow .28 RTR's.
The fact is a newbe would'nt be able to handle a proper high strung .21 engine in a buggy. A typical RTR .28 spins slower and has a much smoother powerband than the "off-on switch" powerband of a .21 screamer unless of course it's a budget 3-port .21 which everyone would likely complain about and/or not even buy .
So what if it it includes a .28. The majority of buyers will probably never race this buggy and even if thay did, most club races allow .28 RTR's.
The fact is a newbe would'nt be able to handle a proper high strung .21 engine in a buggy. A typical RTR .28 spins slower and has a much smoother powerband than the "off-on switch" powerband of a .21 screamer unless of course it's a budget 3-port .21 which everyone would likely complain about and/or not even buy .
#18
I know, that kind've bugged me a bit too. I know the whole "no replacement for displacement" addage. But the matter of fact is, a newbie or rookie isn't gonna be able to tell much if any difference between a .21 and a .28. In fact I'm willing to bet there are a lot of .21 racing motors out there that are more powerful than that .28.
However, I do think that there will be a good number of club racers and beginners that will choose a RTR of this caliber to do more than just "bash".
As for the engine being allowed... most club races will likely allow it (until that person starts winning frequently; then someone will complain that it is not a "legal" .21), but I don't think it is allowed at "sanctioned" races.
Anyway, just IMO.
#19
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Annie, get it right dude...
http://www.hobao-racing.com/products...yper8.5rtr.php
Nothing about a starter box, and it may say Hyper 21, but it appears to be the Macstar .28. That is directly from the HoBao website.
The AE RTR looks pretty damn good. Guys that buy these RTR buggies (95%) never go to a track. The .28's are there because there is "no replacement for displacement" . Toy cars are no different than real cars; people like bigger engines.
http://www.hobao-racing.com/products...yper8.5rtr.php
Nothing about a starter box, and it may say Hyper 21, but it appears to be the Macstar .28. That is directly from the HoBao website.
The AE RTR looks pretty damn good. Guys that buy these RTR buggies (95%) never go to a track. The .28's are there because there is "no replacement for displacement" . Toy cars are no different than real cars; people like bigger engines.
Sorry, Adam.
#20
I'm sure it's a nice ride and all. I like AE. And this is not based on actually touching one. But from the pics it just looks so damn cheap!! Everything on it looks cheesy. But it could just be the pics. I wouldn't base an opinion off of that. I wonder if they are using the same crappy steering brace and rear toe block that keeps breaking on all the pro rides!
#21
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I really think people who are "racers" still can't fathom the FACT that over 95 percent of these cars{not just this rc8rs but all race type RTR packages} will never see a track.They also don't understand simple marketing.Retrain your thought process for a minute.As an uninformed consumer,what motor would you want in the car? A .21 or a .28? Enough said. Remember,we are talking about people who will never use this car for it's true design purpose.Forget what you want and think about what will make AE some money.In order for them to support their actual race team,they make choices on what will go into these cars that will appeal to the target consumer.They do this,all the while taking into consideration certain things that will also appeal to those who may actually race it.Thanks A/E!
#22
The .28 RTR is not as a fast as a VSPEC or P5X.......I have driven both. I think some people on here get the reasons behind it.
I don't know any race facility that won't allow someone who is learning to drive racing with their .28 RTR enigne. The guys buying RTRs are not entering the ROAR Nats. Once the engine wears out they can get a starter box and race engine.
The car looks awesome up close. They also have the new top plate and some improvements to make the arm mounts more durable (longer screws, different material plates).
We know that the first FT cars had parts on the B plate which were not as strong as intended due to a vendor problem which we couldn't control. We are working on a solution to make it right with those customers.
I don't know any race facility that won't allow someone who is learning to drive racing with their .28 RTR enigne. The guys buying RTRs are not entering the ROAR Nats. Once the engine wears out they can get a starter box and race engine.
The car looks awesome up close. They also have the new top plate and some improvements to make the arm mounts more durable (longer screws, different material plates).
We know that the first FT cars had parts on the B plate which were not as strong as intended due to a vendor problem which we couldn't control. We are working on a solution to make it right with those customers.
#23
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Hmmm... looks like the RTR has aluminum shock towers instead of carbon. That MIGHT actually be better! I'm not sure if the pro kit has composite shock ends or aluminum, but that is a potential weak point. Otherwise it looks good... maybe (ok probably) the best RTR out there!
#24
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I really think people who are "racers" still can't fathom the FACT that over 95 percent of these cars{not just this rc8rs but all race type RTR packages} will never see a track.They also don't understand simple marketing.Retrain your thought process for a minute.As an uninformed consumer,what motor would you want in the car? A .21 or a .28? Enough said. Remember,we are talking about people who will never use this car for it's true design purpose.Forget what you want and think about what will make AE some money.In order for them to support their actual race team,they make choices on what will go into these cars that will appeal to the target consumer.They do this,all the while taking into consideration certain things that will also appeal to those who may actually race it.Thanks A/E!
#25
The .28 RTR is not as a fast as a VSPEC or P5X.......I have driven both. I think some people on here get the reasons behind it.
I don't know any race facility that won't allow someone who is learning to drive racing with their .28 RTR enigne. The guys buying RTRs are not entering the ROAR Nats. Once the engine wears out they can get a starter box and race engine.
I don't know any race facility that won't allow someone who is learning to drive racing with their .28 RTR enigne. The guys buying RTRs are not entering the ROAR Nats. Once the engine wears out they can get a starter box and race engine.
#30
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I am that guy who you speak of (the newbie on the fence) who wants to give 1/8 scale gas a try, and I cannot tell you how much I want this car.
I have always enjoyed TA products, and I pretty much resigned myself to getting an 8ight RTR until I read this post.
Any idea on when this is going to be released? This car would definitely push me into the world of nitro.
I have always enjoyed TA products, and I pretty much resigned myself to getting an 8ight RTR until I read this post.
Any idea on when this is going to be released? This car would definitely push me into the world of nitro.