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Old 11-12-2007, 03:11 PM   #31
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I'd be more concerned about parts availability if anything. If you're located in the U.S., Associated and Losi parts will be easy to get, as many hobby shops have no problems carrying their products. Having to wait 1-2 weeks for parts really blows, that's why I got rid of the XRAY XB8.
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:17 PM   #32
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Carolinas RC, A-Main and B-Main all stock parts for the Kyosho and Mugen as well. Plan ahead a little and have the most common breakables in your box to get you through the race day and you can have replacements within a few days from them.

You shouldn't have to wait weeks for parts for any of these 3 cars.
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Mugen is carried by Great Planes and Horizon...if your shop doesnt have the parts more than likely they can easily....
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I'd be more concerned about parts availability if anything. If you're located in the U.S., Associated and Losi parts will be easy to get, as many hobby shops have no problems carrying their products. Having to wait 1-2 weeks for parts really blows, that's why I got rid of the XRAY XB8.

I find the Associated and Losi are no better in parts than Kyosho or Mugen. Xray, I can see that be a parts issue. The Associated RC8's most broken parts is backordered right now. Parts will really depend on the distributor & your LHS.
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I also find that parts availability depends on how close a big race either is or was. Right before and right after the worlds warmup for example, Carolinas RC was out of stock of most of the common buggy parts. This isn't an issue with them at all - just a function of the demand being higher for those parts at the time.

Like I said - plan ahead a little and parts availability shouldn't be an issue. It is good practice to keep a couple sets of the following in your pit box at all times:
  • Front/Rear lower arms
  • Hinge pins (upper and lower, inner and outer)
  • Front/Rear lower pivot blocks/hinge blocks (inner & outer)
  • Wing stays
  • Front hub carrier pivot bushings/screws
  • Rear hub carriers
  • Suspension arm bushings
  • Wheel nuts

That is probably the most common stuff to bend/break/lose. If you have a Losi add in a rear center shafts and a pair of CVDs. Most of that stuff is cheap.

If you have that stuff in your box at the track you shouldn't need to worry about parts availability. If something breaks, replace it out of your spares and either get new ones at your LHS if they stock it or order it online when you get home.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:06 AM   #36
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I also find that parts availability depends on how close a big race either is or was. Right before and right after the worlds warmup for example, Carolinas RC was out of stock of most of the common buggy parts. This isn't an issue with them at all - just a function of the demand being higher for those parts at the time.

Like I said - plan ahead a little and parts availability shouldn't be an issue. It is good practice to keep a couple sets of the following in your pit box at all times:
  • Front/Rear lower arms
  • Hinge pins (upper and lower, inner and outer)
  • Front/Rear lower pivot blocks/hinge blocks (inner & outer)
  • Wing stays
  • Front hub carrier pivot bushings/screws
  • Rear hub carriers
  • Suspension arm bushings
  • Wheel nuts

That is probably the most common stuff to bend/break/lose. If you have a Losi add in a rear center shafts and a pair of CVDs. Most of that stuff is cheap.

If you have that stuff in your box at the track you shouldn't need to worry about parts availability. If something breaks, replace it out of your spares and either get new ones at your LHS if they stock it or order it online when you get home.
Correction, for the Losi it is the FRONT center shaft with wear problems. I'd add a diff outdrive or 2, an assortment of clutch bells (they are LONGER than the other brands) and a diff case for the center diff. Perhaps a spur gear, and a set of ring and pinion gears (on the Losi you need a different ring gear for front and rear...) If you want to be really prepared a set of bulkheads/gearbox cases/whatever you want to call them. Some steering ball links is also a good idea. Essentially... if you break it once, buy 2 and keep a spare.
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I don't drive a Losi so I was just listing based on what I have seen people at the local track go through as well as the stuff I have historically broken on 1/8th scale offroad cars. Our track is pretty rough so the rear center shaft on the Losis takes a beating because of the chassis flex in the rear. YMMV.
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Understood... btw on the Losi, better take bearings with you too... it uses too many different ones. The other buggies GENERALLY have 2 types- a size that is used for hubs, diffs, etc and a size for the clutch bell... the Losi has 2 different bearings in the clutch bell, 2 different ones in the hubs, and another one for the diffs. 5 different bearing sizes.
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i have a k3 ,sp2 and a losi my k3 was i think better then the sp2 but when i got a losi better the any kyosho that i have drove, i would get a losi i have let some people drive my losi and they want to losi

losi is the way to go
iam not saying kyosho is not good they are
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I've owned a Prospec, a Losi and now a Kyosho WC with big bores. Here's what I've found with them.

Mugen - Excellent through bumps, the car WILL steer when set up properly, solid driveline. Suspension components in the front were fragile for me (pulled pillow balls out of the arms and broke shock shafts)

Losi - Extremely fast on smooth tracks, and the suspension components are very durable in my experience. Very hard to drive quickly on rutted tracks, and requires a lot of driveline maintenance to stay reliable and fast.

Kyosho - Excellent parts quality, unflappable suspension when using big bores, bling factor, proven design. Doesn't steer as well as the Losi, but it's much better through rough sections on throttle, and will not get upset when landing crooked off of big jumps.
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Haha so if you race a Losi bring a parts car.

The Kyosho uses 3 different size bearings:

8x16 - Entire driveline
6x10 - 4 in the steering
5x10 - 2 in the clutch
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No, just buy an Innovative Designs Bone Saver, some Mugen driveshaft pins, and several diff housings.
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No, just buy an Innovative Designs Bone Saver, some Mugen driveshaft pins, and several diff housings.
Actually I wonder if that is possible on the Losi... it would be nice if so. As for the diff housings... at $4 a pop it is like replacing bearings, just one more thing to maintain. No big deal. Most Losi parts are DIRT CHEAP.
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Skar - The MBX5-R latest front arms are bombproof. I do not think they changed the shock shafts but with the new shocks the front shafts do not seem to get bent now.
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I'd be more concerned about parts availability if anything. If you're located in the U.S., Associated and Losi parts will be easy to get, as many hobby shops have no problems carrying their products. Having to wait 1-2 weeks for parts really blows, that's why I got rid of the XRAY XB8.

Most hobby shops I know don't want to carry xray stuff becasue parts availablity is unpreditabe and profit margins are low.
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