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Old 09-28-2008, 11:55 AM   #751
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?, why is mugen charging so cheap for the mbx6 ($550) compared to the losi 8ight 2.0 ($649) and the MP9 ($849)?



Six bills for a kit isn't "cheap". Less expensive is more like it...
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:42 PM   #752
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Maybe this is a bit OT...forgive me if it is, but it strikes me as a bid odd that the new K car is so much more expensive than its closest competitors. I can't imagine why they did that. Will the MP9 really be that much better than the X6 and 808? It's almost a 30% difference in price!
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Six bills for a kit isn't "cheap". Less expensive is more like it...
okay, not "cheap" but why the big difference in price. If anything, I would think any kit (new or old) would be max $five something. I personally would never spend $849 just for a roller. With the quality of Mugen, I will go $550 all day. No complaints here!!!
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Maybe this is a bit OT...forgive me if it is, but it strikes me as a bid odd that the new K car is so much more expensive than its closest competitors. I can't imagine why they did that. Will the MP9 really be that much better than the X6 and 808? It's almost a 30% difference in price!
It's pretty simple. They will keep pricing higher and higher in order to maximize their profits until they reach a point of diminishing returns. Once that happens, they will know what the ideal price is to set on the buggy in order to maximize their profits. As long as people are willing to shell out more and more money each time a new buggy comes out, they'll keep increasing the price.
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It's pretty simple. They will keep pricing higher and higher in order to maximize their profits until they reach a point of diminishing returns. Once that happens, they will know what the ideal price is to set on the buggy in order to maximize their profits. As long as people are willing to shell out more and more money each time a new buggy comes out, they'll keep increasing the price.
Right on . Kyosho is like those big financial institutions on wall street. They have no remorse or concern for their customers. Only concerned with their executives and their profit margins. I think this is going to be a bad year for kyosho in terms of sales. Especially because the cost to hobby shops is $750 (unless you buy more than 5) so no one is going to really offer any kind of price break for the mp9. Maybe this isn't the case everywhere but I have noticed fewer kyosho at every race I go to...I remember when the mp7.5 was around, that was the industry standard. Every company and every racer was competing against kyosho. Today its a different story. Lastly, a hobby shop told me that they have double the preorders for the mbx6 than they do the mp9
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Old 09-28-2008, 03:37 PM   #756
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OK, but 30% seems like quite a risk. Seems like a guaranteed loss of market share except for the die-hard Kyosho fans with deep pockets. I guess time will tell. I like Mugen better anyway

Of course, Kyosho knows a lot more than I do about their market...it just seems counter-intuitive to bump the price 30% over market without showing how you're 30% better.

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the new big bores are truely a thing of beauty...

(ManicRC, I'm liking the avitar... so I take it your a fan of the Clay Smith grind?)
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Well, Kyosho lost. I hardly see those things at local track races nowadays.
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Hey, thanks madjack! I don't know much about Clay's cams per se, but the logo brings back memories of my younger days. I remember seeing the sticker on the windows of hot-rodded Chevelles and Camaros when I was a kid and I always thought "Mr. Horsepower" was cool.

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For those of you who got your cars already, does it include tires and wheels? If so are they proline?
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For those of you who got your cars already, does it include tires and wheels? If so are they proline?
on mugen's site it says you need 'em.
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on mugen's site it says you need 'em.
Thanks for your response. I answered my own question. Apparently the USA edition does include proline tires and wheels. Go MUGEN!
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ah geez, ron is gonna spring for yet another new bug. sadly its gonna sit during stratocaster season this winter lol

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I think It comes with aka tires
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I think It comes with aka tires
The K car does. I don't think Mugen would.
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