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Old 10-25-2007, 07:45 AM   #1
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Default SH 1/8 Buggy - You wanted innovation, you got it

I know Briguy posted this before, but the thread wouldve gotten lost with its title...

I like the ideas here, but as it has been said, the rear brake idea has been done...hopefully this one (rear brake)will be better suited than the previous Ofna offerings.

I also think the plastics need some work, as they look a bit too "plasticy"

your thoughts?

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Old 10-25-2007, 07:51 AM   #2
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The link doesn`t work .
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:00 AM   #3
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Define "Innovation". I don't think it means copying elements of existing cars and lumping them together in a car.
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:46 AM   #5
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LOL! Here's what the world needs... another buggy that's full of "innovation." I agree with hayabusa - please define innovation while I cut my wrists due to lack of real innovation in my favorite class.
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LOL! Here's what the world needs... another buggy that's full of "innovation." I agree with hayabusa - please define innovation while I cut my wrists due to lack of real innovation in my favorite class.
You've obviously not looked closely at the pictures. I'm guessing that you don't speak Chinese either because you could then listen to the video that explains many of the innovations.
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wow...ok.

If you were observant you'd notice a few things.

- Front knuckle/pivot ball combo...which im sure will be about infinitely adjustable kickup.

- The rear "hingepin" design is completely different

- finally, engine tilted at an angle to lower cg, etc.

- Obviously a rear brake instead of dual centers....not sure if its better or not.

There are many things to look at and think about, but of course, the bandwagon jumpers that posted above have to bad mouth everything...does this make them look good? no. Do they feel better saying stupid shit? Probably.

Get off your high horse kids.
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Looks like the length of the front 'upper' arms is variable as well...

Ninety percent of the time, 'innovation' almost exclusively involves applying existing tech in a novel way. The other 10% of the time involves a new material or technique combined with existing technology... Stay in school, kids!

Read up on the history of Audi, for example... Especially their 'new' Le Mans race car (Diesel) that kicked the competition in the teeth, repeatedly, over the last few years...

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No rear hinge pins, rear droop mounts, laydown front shocks.


I dont' care for the rear brake, seems like it's just more crap to adjust and get in the way when working on the car.



THere's a couple new things, but none of it will matter if it can't finish a race. Team Magic, Acer, RC8 ( yep, this one too) and maybe a couple other cars that were supposedly ahead of their time.

As Rabid said, sometimes innovation is using existing technology. I like to refer to the K.I.S.S. approach , Keep It Simple Stupid ( saw this in a mountain bike magazine YEARS ago and have never forgot it. ), which I think the Kyosho comes closest to. And it happens to be the winningest buggy of all time.
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Iím not impressed. Looks cheap, heavy and worst of all it looks like a bitch to work on.

I see lots of new ideas, but just because they are new doesnít necessarily make them better. Kind of unnecessarily complex IMO.

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It`s different for sure ! Most people don`t like changes and bash something different right from the get go . I like the look of the buggy and new ideas on it ! I plan to get one .
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i can already hear the parts breaking on it...........
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i can already hear the parts breaking on it...........
Guessing you hear that a lot when you drive . JK
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Iím not impressed. Looks cheap, heavy and worst of all it looks like a bitch to work on.

I see lots of new ideas, but just because they are new doesnít necessarily make them better. Kind of unnecessarily complex IMO.

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Guessing you hear that a lot when you drive . JK
touche my friend, touche....


but it does look like something XTM would design...

XTM= eXtra Time and Money...off topic but funny
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