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Old 09-30-2007, 02:15 PM   #1
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I've got approximately $400.00 to spend on a new buggy. I want to order tonight!

Should I get:

A. OCM Kaos DT19
B. Hyper 8.5
C. Something I am not thinking about....

OK buggy guys, I have been a truggy guy for the last few seasons and am looking to switch to buggy. And, I would really appreciate some input as to why you might recommend 1 or the other.

Also I would be real interested in what the weights are on both of these...

Anyone got a good hookup on either of these or the mystery option 3? Let me know that too (you can PM me that...don't want the thread getting cluttered up)!!

Whre should my $400.00 go????

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Old 09-30-2007, 02:41 PM   #2
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I only know one person who has a ocm. He is a good driver and only raced it a couple weekends cause it kept breaking on him. Because of that I would say hyper 8.5. Plus im sure you are much more likely to find ofna parts at lhs's then ocm parts. just my .02
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:06 PM   #3
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I have a sportwerks mayhem pro and I love it to death I have won my last 8 weeks with it and have not broke anything and it is very easy to change diff oil in but that is just how I feel
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:29 PM   #4
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I vote for the OCM Kaos DT-19. I'll caveat this by saying its really the only buggy that I've "RACED". But I've been a truggy driver for a few years...

Its very responsive, takes changes well, and just flat-out easy to drive.

It also has some great features such as no e-clips, captured hinge pins, a great method to change the toe-in/toe-out. IMO, truly a well designed vehicle.

Finally, the customer is second to none. Alan Burton is great rep for OCM America. Don't know how he manages all the personalized service but he does....

Thats my vote
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My vote would be on a Team VTX VTX-B1 with the optional billet suspension parts. That should keep you under $400 and it is a great buggy that is very tuneable!

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Old 09-30-2007, 04:26 PM   #6
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Sportwerks turmoil Pro. Its 401.00 at Amain hobbies. They were on special.
Comes with motor and pipe. These babies rock my son had the Mayhem pro and it ripped.
http://www.sportwerksrc.com/Products...ProdID=SWK1225

If you have a motor get the one with out the motor its 350.00.
They are prebuilt.
And when I got it I thought I would take it apart and put lock tight on every thing, I was shocked. Every single screw I took off was was already lock tighted.
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:28 PM   #7
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Sorry that was the ready to run. heres the one I bought.
http://www.sportwerksrc.com/Products...ProdID=SWK1155
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hyper 8.5.....
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Old 09-30-2007, 05:20 PM   #9
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I've driven the Sportwerks Turmoil and think it's OK, but it did not blow my socks off. BUT, I do really appreciate the feedback on them!

Keep it coming...2 hours until I place my order

By the way, I have motor, pipe, servos and radio...just need something to stick them in

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+1 on the 8.5...
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The 8.5 is winning the vote, but I have yet to see anyone bring up a strong arguement for the buggy.

8.5 guys...tell me why!

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I think thats the one thing people should do when they recommend something is "quantify it". Why do you think its better than "x". What is it you like about that RC if you have nothing else to compare it to...


I'm just agreeing some backup data would be good
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The 8.5 is winning the vote, but I have yet to see anyone bring up a strong arguement for the buggy.

8.5 guys...tell me why!
euro champ!!!!!!!

that means strong, fast, good handling and light....need anymore good reasons???
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OK, here is how it ended up playing out.

Let me start off by saying that this was NOT an easy decision BUT, in my opinon, was one where I wasn't going to lose big time, either way I go.

Here's what I see with the OCM (2nd place)
The good: Customer Service! It's a new company working HARD for my hard earned dollars. I sent an email to someone whose opinions I value and they said they had been happy with the service and support they have received from OCM. A-main has parts! The entire OCM crew has a POSITIVE and ACTIVE role in the RC community! The level of personal service that I have heard about is unheard of! These guys are out to prove a point...and are doing it well!!!!!!!!!!

The bad: Widespread parts availability. I doubt that any of the LHS have ever seen an OCM, so parts and support aren't going to happen locally. Also, the local racing community hasn't seem to latch on to these....yet.

And here is why I picked the Hyper 8.5:

The Good: Parts availability and general information available about the kit is better. Parts can be had on ebay for a freaking SONG! With these buggies doing so well over seas and in the US, the wealth of information is there. Not to mention, I LOVED my Hyper7 Pro from back in the day. That thing was reliable and fast. I am hoping for similar love from the 8.5. I have a few friends racing the 8.5...which means I have some knowledge and experience to draw on Given that and the fact that the 8.5 comes as hopped up as I can image...it's hard to find room to complain about features and included value.

The Bad: Customer Service. OFNA can be a PITA sometimes

After looking around the Internet and talking to a few gurus in PM, I can tell you that I don't feel like there was a WRONG decision to be made here. What the OCM might lack in local support and parts availability, they more than make up for it with great Customer Service and some really awesome representation here at RC Tech from Mr Aburton

In the end, it was my penny-pinching butt that swung my decision in the Hyper's favor (and even as I write this, I wonder if I made the right decision). I am really hoping that next year I can pick up an OCM just to see how much regret I feel when I take the wheel!

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