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Old 10-29-2007, 10:38 AM   #76
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FWIW, for 1/8th scale and truggy you always want to vent the tire, not the rim.
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FWIW, for 1/8th scale and truggy you always want to vent the tire, not the rim.
What is the difference ?
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FWIW, for 1/8th scale and truggy you always want to vent the tire, not the rim.
I don`t and has worked fine for me .
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i got a couple sets from the pre worlds from the pros, ill keep yall updated
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I emailed Proline again to see what they would say since the last time i contacted them [which was little over a year ago] and this is the B.S. answer they have . Obviously they don`t think there is a problem or really care to make any changes .



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Are the tires and wheels are vented correctly?
Did the tires become submerged beneath water at any point?

Pro-Line recommends mounting the tires with both the wheels and the
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Now , I don`t cut my tires as I just drill holes in my rims they don`t already . Don`t you think putting holes in the tires would help the moisture they don`t want to get into the tire and foam . I explained to them that tracks occasionally have water and I clean my tires with water and Simple green . And Proline foams are the only foams I`ve had a problem with . Ofna and Panther foams hold up longer than my tires do , so why does Proline foams have such a problem , if nothing is wrong [in their opinion] .

I also sent them the link to this thread and they ignored it . We need to get together and stop buying Proline products as their are many other tire , foam , and body manufactures out there and more heading this way . Maybe this will wake them up .


i just got a second hand mugen. it came with 4 crimefighters mounted on rims, and 4 proline knuckles mounted, they were all (8) tires mountes on proline rims. the rims and tires were pretty good, but im also assuming there were proline foams in them??they looked like pathetic, torn up sponges. are they always supposed to look like that?? do those expensive oranfe OFNA ones turn into sponges too or do they keep that rubbery texture??
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Ofna foams are not expensive and they do stay the same and don`t fall apart .
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The funny part about the response from Proline is that they know what causes the foams to go bad... water!. They could print this on the packaging but could you imagine going to buy a set of off road tires and foams and on the package it says that you can not wash them?

Who hear races on damp or wet clay tracks and does not wash their tires?

They recomend you cut holes in your tires but then state that you should not get any moisture in them or the foams will take a shit!

The simple solution is spend your money elsewhere! Don't think you have to have Proline tires to go fast.
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The funny part about the response from Proline is that they know what causes the foams to go bad... water!. They could print this on the packaging but could you imagine going to buy a set of off road tires and foams and on the package it says that you can not wash them?

Who hear races on damp or wet clay tracks and does not wash their tires?

They recomend you cut holes in your tires but then state that you should not get any moisture in them or the foams will take a shit!

The simple solution is spend your money elsewhere! Don't think you have to have Proline tires to go fast.


Exactly my thoughts
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Briguy Proline are careless.

Thats the same response i got from them.
Must be a standard automated response to say yeah we know our products suck so deal with it.

That confirms what i thought.

Oh well no more sales from my end of the woods.

Proline have issues that they dont care to deal with..
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:56 PM   #85
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I have 2 things to say to pro-line about this:

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[QUOTE=Briguy;3811206]I emailed Proline again to see what they would say since the last time i contacted them [which was little over a year ago] and this is the B.S. answer they have . Obviously they don`t think there is a problem or really care to make any changes .



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If proline won't visit this thread then lets all send them email complaining about their product. Can you post the email address you used?
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Water does not hurt foam. Dirt accumulating in the water/foam and turning into grinding paste eats foams fast (ever had a conventional foam develop a "tumor"). You vent the tire and not the rim because the centrifugal force of the spinning tire helps to sling water and dirt out of the holes, if you have holes in the rims then the centrifugal drives dirt and water into the foam from the inside.

You should only vent the rims instead of the tires if you are running indoors or on a blue groove surface and are using traction compounds (eats the foam fast).
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http://www.pro-lineracing.com/proline.html

Pete go there an use the Contact button on the bottom of the page.
I would suggest everyone spam their inbox with messages of disgust in their product and let them know your unhapppy and will not be buying their products any more, the more that do it the better. Just dont swear and go off at them.
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Water does not hurt foam. Dirt accumulating in the water/foam and turning into grinding paste eats foams fast (ever had a conventional foam develop a "tumor"). You vent the tire and not the rim because the centrifugal force of the spinning tire helps to sling water and dirt out of the holes, if you have holes in the rims then the centrifugal drives dirt and water into the foam from the inside.

You should only vent the rims instead of the tires if you are running indoors or on a blue groove surface and are using traction compounds (eats the foam fast).
I don`t put my tire`s underwater .....

Venting the tire is a must do , if you have small vent holes , you will not get the performance....


I put big vent holes on the inside of the rim for this reason alone....

Thanks for the reply...


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i use ProLine foams in my in 1/8 buggy and i love them
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