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Old 09-09-2007, 06:07 AM   #31
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You might want to have a look at the Jammin .21. It's made by Picco and it's a really strong engine. I am not sure if you can get it for under $200, but it won't be much over. My buddy is running this engine and it rips!
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:09 AM   #32
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sts mkII! It has good run time, more power than my p5x and it is cheap.
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Old 09-09-2007, 07:19 AM   #33
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The problem with the STS .21's is that they're quite the gamble. I know many have gotten a good one, but many have also had broken cranks and crappy carbs. The .28's and the .30's OTOH seem to be better...
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The Picco motors are by far my first pick of a motor. I started with a Picco P3 .28. I ran about 12-14 gallons through it. My race partner has had his in his truggy for over a year and has about 17-20 gallons through it. The only thing that either of us have ever done to them is replace the bearings after 1-2 gallons with ceramic bearings. TRUTHFULLY!!!!!!!!! The only thing I did not like about the .28, was it was hard to make a 5 min qual on one tank. When my .28 finnaly expired I decided to try the Picco P7R EVO. I am on my 4 or 5 gallon, and I love the motor. 8-9 min runtime, plenty of power, easy tune, consistent, longevity. From what I hear, the only difference between the EVO and the EVO 2 is a small change in crank timing and a massaging of the port timing for a little bit more top end. The EVO had alot of bottom and not so much top, (and when i say not so much top, i mean a very slight difference from the EVO 2). The changes were made to the EVO 2 to try and smooth out the power band for a more even and linear power band. The EVO 2 is going to be my next motor of choice, I may pick one up today from my LHS.
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The Picco motors are by far my first pick of a motor. I started with a Picco P3 .28. I ran about 12-14 gallons through it. My race partner has had his in his truggy for over a year and has about 17-20 gallons through it. The only thing that either of us have ever done to them is replace the bearings after 1-2 gallons with ceramic bearings. TRUTHFULLY!!!!!!!!! The only thing I did not like about the .28, was it was hard to make a 5 min qual on one tank. When my .28 finnaly expired I decided to try the Picco P7R EVO. I am on my 4 or 5 gallon, and I love the motor. 8-9 min runtime, plenty of power, easy tune, consistent, longevity. From what I hear, the only difference between the EVO and the EVO 2 is a small change in crank timing and a massaging of the port timing for a little bit more top end. The EVO had alot of bottom and not so much top, (and when i say not so much top, i mean a very slight difference from the EVO 2). The changes were made to the EVO 2 to try and smooth out the power band for a more even and linear power band. The EVO 2 is going to be my next motor of choice, I may pick one up today from my LHS.


Good info onthe differences from P7R to EVo 2.... I loved my EVO2, it was amazingly smooth...soo smooth that it could get you into trouble at times, as the motor is soo smooth you dont realise the amount of ground speed your carrying.... I never realised how fast the EVO 2 was till I started lining it up next to some other motors on the track.. The little EVO 2 doesn't feel overly powerful, but side by side its able to outpace pretty much anything you put it against... the only motor in Truggy able to compete with the EVO 2 is a Ninja 28......

Here are some videos of my EVO 2 in action...Keep in mind that my motor is modified and not stock..... In these videos i have the EVO2 powered 5T racing a Ninja 28 powered 5T...a VZB powered MBX5 buggy, and a Werks B7 powered X-Ray XB buggy..



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The Picco motors are by far my first pick of a motor. I started with a Picco P3 .28. I ran about 12-14 gallons through it. My race partner has had his in his truggy for over a year and has about 17-20 gallons through it. The only thing that either of us have ever done to them is replace the bearings after 1-2 gallons with ceramic bearings. TRUTHFULLY!!!!!!!!! The only thing I did not like about the .28, was it was hard to make a 5 min qual on one tank. When my .28 finnaly expired I decided to try the Picco P7R EVO. I am on my 4 or 5 gallon, and I love the motor. 8-9 min runtime, plenty of power, easy tune, consistent, longevity. From what I hear, the only difference between the EVO and the EVO 2 is a small change in crank timing and a massaging of the port timing for a little bit more top end. The EVO had alot of bottom and not so much top, (and when i say not so much top, i mean a very slight difference from the EVO 2). The changes were made to the EVO 2 to try and smooth out the power band for a more even and linear power band. The EVO 2 is going to be my next motor of choice, I may pick one up today from my LHS.
17-20 gallons without ever changing the rod, thats a little hard to believe.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:34 PM   #37
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i have a novarossi n21b its only a 3 port but lots of power and easy to tune. its got good lowend and real quick topend with the right pipe its a nice motor its as good as some of the higher end motors for 1/2 the price.
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:29 PM   #38
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I have that Nova NB21F 2001 (.latest version 2007 production) motor and the GO 5 port for $20 more (on Amain) smoked it in every way other than known personal reliability. (I've had 2 NB21F's already and the 1st one lasted about 8 gallons before needing a rebuild. Go 5 port has similar bottom, faster to rev to redline, and WAY better topend. Plus the carb is insulated so no more vapor lock (both of my nb21f's have all metal carbs that would get hot). Others who've had a GO longer than I have have been claiming an easy 8+ gallons on their motor. I have about 3+ gallons on oldest 5 port and it still has good pinch. So we'll see on the longevity issue. Of course I change the conrods on my engines at the 3 gallon mark.
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:57 PM   #39
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yep like i said the go 5 port is the way to go....i would trade both my werks B7PRO engines for one go 5 port....
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:46 AM   #40
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I have put 4 gallons through my 5 port Go Tech, so far so good. Just took it apart for the first time and everything is perfect.
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:57 AM   #41
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i have a novarossi 3 port and i like it ita got lots of lowend power and good topend as well its a good cheap motor
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+1 on the Novarossi P5x!

I get anywhere from 7 to 10 minute run times - depending on my state of tune. I still get 7 at maximum powa tune (I.e. really lean). Motor runs at 210~220 all day with a decent tune.

I have 8 gallons on mine right now, and it still has tons o' compression. When you turn it by hand - every thing plugged up - you cannot hear any leaks in the piston/sleeve (Excellent compression).

Great motors. It does everything I need as quick as anything else I've run against thus far. The power delivery is silky smooth, thus controllable.

I've heard great things about the Picco Evo IIs. Rob Bender over at NitroHouse.com swears by 'em. They are relatively cheap there as well.

I would like to try a Go-Tech one day as well. People at my local tracks seem to like them a lot. They also seem just as powerful as anything else on the track. In terms of pure 'bang for the buck', I'd say get a Go-Tech engine!
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Just shows that there are alot og good race motors out there... I have a Go-tech coming, which will compliment my P7 EVO 2 quite well..... I also have a Ninja 28 which is also an amazing mill
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17-20 gallons without ever changing the rod, thats a little hard to believe.
Believe it or not, Ive seen it with my own two eyes. Take it for what you will.
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:01 AM   #45
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I was in the same boat. I did a lot of research and purchased this motor and haven't looked back.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/10094

The Rossi Mamba. also check out Rossi's website.

http://www.axemotor.it/index1.htm

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