R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro Off-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-16-2008, 02:15 PM   #7936
Tech Lord
 
Integra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,482
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to Integra
Default

70wt in the rear would make it Bounce like a m o f o no matter What piston you ran...X2 on the no bottoming out issue....these cars are Designed to chassy slap......and from personal experience ive found losi's are REAL sensitive to proper ride height adjustment...if its 3-4mm's out the car's will act totally different.
__________________
TNS Driver - Radio Post - Blue Groove Apparel - Team Panther - Hitec - Losi - W.E.D. Paint - Clockwork Fuel - Competition Heat - SUMO Racing - Tekin - Team Terribles - M2C Racing - Matrix Concepts - Kal Gard - BuKu Power - DE Racing -
Integra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 02:26 PM   #7937
Tech Master
 
DRRC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,505
Trader Rating: 57 (98%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Integra View Post
70wt in the rear would make it Bounce like a m o f o no matter What piston you ran...X2 on the no bottoming out issue....these cars are Designed to chassy slap......and from personal experience ive found losi's are REAL sensitive to proper ride height adjustment...if its 3-4mm's out the car's will act totally different.
Integra
You maybe right
I have noticed this with the E8
About the 70 wt I had it with my nitro 8 and it was ok
didnt want to use it in the E8, I want to know why my shocks feel softer and bouncy than the RC8
I seem to have slower times with the E8 compared to my RC8, and I think it is the softer setup thats slowing me down
thanks
__________________
Team Wife
Mugen Seiki Racing
Mugenracing.com
DRRC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 03:58 PM   #7938
Tech Addict
 
desertbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Surprise, AZ
Posts: 551
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Integra View Post
bearings are 1$.....14$
14bearings X $1.00 = $14

6 flanged diff bearings
4 inner hub bearings
4 outer hub bearings
desertbird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 04:01 PM   #7939
Tech Addict
 
desertbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Surprise, AZ
Posts: 551
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

You know I was just thinking about the chassis slap. Has anyone tried some fuel tubing on the shock shaft to keep it 3-4mm off the ground at full compresion? I know it's really no big deal to bottom out, but it could keep chassis wear down a tad and maybe prevent a little scrubing of speed. Especially on the front when you take a big jump.
desertbird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 04:15 PM   #7940
Tech Lord
 
Integra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,482
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to Integra
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by desertbird View Post
14bearings X $1.00 = $14

6 flanged diff bearings
4 inner hub bearings
4 outer hub bearings


gotcha....and on the limiting thing.....look at any action pic of the losi on a bumpy track...constantly using its Full travel.....take that away and who know's what the handleing will be like.
__________________
TNS Driver - Radio Post - Blue Groove Apparel - Team Panther - Hitec - Losi - W.E.D. Paint - Clockwork Fuel - Competition Heat - SUMO Racing - Tekin - Team Terribles - M2C Racing - Matrix Concepts - Kal Gard - BuKu Power - DE Racing -
Integra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 04:16 PM   #7941
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Sugar Land, TX
Posts: 1,169
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

Y'all are confused about the purpose of the shocks. Their main function is to keep the tire patch in contact with the ground as much as possible, 'cause if you ain't putting the power down and carrying speed out of the corners, you ain't winning. Jumping is secondary.

+1 to what Integra said. I got to race mine for the 2nd time last weekend and made a 1mm ride height change fromt and rear, huge difference. The car is really precise, pay attention to ride height, droop settings, etc. Also, be sure the suspension moves freely, ream the hinge pin holes a little if you have to. And if you're not building the shocks with full rebound, I'd recommend it.
cjtamu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 04:27 PM   #7942
Tech Lord
 
Integra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,482
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to Integra
Default

X2 on the rebound.....makes the ride height measurements a little more accurate imo....and be repetitive on how u test and adjust the height....and make sure to have at least 1/2 a tank of fuel and the shell ON.
__________________
TNS Driver - Radio Post - Blue Groove Apparel - Team Panther - Hitec - Losi - W.E.D. Paint - Clockwork Fuel - Competition Heat - SUMO Racing - Tekin - Team Terribles - M2C Racing - Matrix Concepts - Kal Gard - BuKu Power - DE Racing -
Integra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 08:44 PM   #7943
Tech Addict
 
desertbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Surprise, AZ
Posts: 551
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

I've been running my shocks 0 rebound. I'll definetly have to pump em up... probably a better solution than limiting the travel
desertbird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 07:00 AM   #7944
Tech Initiate
 
underthethumbma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ENGLAND
Posts: 42
Default

hi how do you build the shocks to make sure you have full rebound?? i fill mine 3/4 full pump the piston up and down to get the bubbles out fill to the top put the blader on and screw the top down is this ok??
__________________
Losi 8 2.0 - Novarossi 21-4 - 9901 Super Strong - Sanwa - Futaba 3pk
underthethumbma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 10:43 AM   #7945
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Sugar Land, TX
Posts: 1,169
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by underthethumbma View Post
hi how do you build the shocks to make sure you have full rebound?? i fill mine 3/4 full pump the piston up and down to get the bubbles out fill to the top put the blader on and screw the top down is this ok??
Pretty much it, you just want to be sure that you can compress the shaft all the way in without too much resistance also.
cjtamu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 12:10 PM   #7946
Tech Lord
 
Integra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,482
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to Integra
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by underthethumbma View Post
hi how do you build the shocks to make sure you have full rebound?? i fill mine 3/4 full pump the piston up and down to get the bubbles out fill to the top put the blader on and screw the top down is this ok??


that is basically the key.....1 thing i notice guys doing is leaving the blatter in the cap....big no no....that wont allow you to properly ensure the shock is 100% full.....1 trick i have to getting them Unstuck from the cap without tearing/Poking it to death....is use your compressor.....a little toot on i side and it should POP up a corner.....but basically make sure the body is 100% full.....i leave a corner up and let it spew out the side...seal it....wipe it....cap it.....and my shocks almost always have near 100%....and like cjtamu said....make sure there's not too much resistance at full compression or you'll start blowing out the seal's and leaking oil.
__________________
TNS Driver - Radio Post - Blue Groove Apparel - Team Panther - Hitec - Losi - W.E.D. Paint - Clockwork Fuel - Competition Heat - SUMO Racing - Tekin - Team Terribles - M2C Racing - Matrix Concepts - Kal Gard - BuKu Power - DE Racing -
Integra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 05:34 PM   #7947
Tech Adept
 
bajaracer1501's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 227
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

Hey guys, I have the losi adjustable pin brace set......I installed the inserts for 3 degrees rear toe-in but when I put it on a set-up station, it reads 2 degrees. I remember reading that the sheet that Losi provides is slightly off. Does anybody have the correct insert set-up info? THANKS!
bajaracer1501 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 05:42 PM   #7948
Tech Master
 
CaseyP's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Having fun racing toy cars in beautiful AZ
Posts: 1,715
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

Baja 0 inserts = 3 deg
CaseyP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 05:49 PM   #7949
Tech Adept
 
bajaracer1501's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 227
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

CaseyP...so same exact positioning but with the 0 inserts for 3 degree toe-in/anti-squat? THANKS!!
bajaracer1501 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2008, 08:59 AM   #7950
Tech Lord
 
Integra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,482
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to Integra
Default

here's what i copied to my sheet from like 50 pages ago.


Rear Toe-In adjustment
Position....Insert #....total toe-IN....REAL total

Inside........1.............1............1.65
Inside........0.5..........1.5.........2.15
Middle........0.............2............2.70
Outside......0.5..........2.5..........3.25
Outside......1.............3.............3.80




Rear Anti adjustment
Position....Insert #....total Anti....REAL total

UP..........1...............3............3.15
UP.........0.5.............2.5..........2.60
Middle......0.............2.............2.05
Down.......0.5.........1.5...........1.05
Down.......1.............1.............0.95


that took a little effort.
__________________
TNS Driver - Radio Post - Blue Groove Apparel - Team Panther - Hitec - Losi - W.E.D. Paint - Clockwork Fuel - Competition Heat - SUMO Racing - Tekin - Team Terribles - M2C Racing - Matrix Concepts - Kal Gard - BuKu Power - DE Racing -
Integra is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Losi 8ight Clutch building Cvdiver Nitro Off-Road 3 05-21-2008 04:47 AM
Team Losi 8ight Buggy with Brushless Setup RcOneNitro R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 9 04-20-2008 06:04 PM
losi 8ight-t package f/t for brushless lipo setup ColeT R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 6 03-02-2008 11:17 AM
Losi 8ight-t setup F/s ColeT R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 15 02-11-2008 08:51 PM
OS .21 V-spec Cluth Setup on Losi 8ight? RcOneNitro Nitro Off-Road 6 09-03-2007 01:07 AM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 08:49 PM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net