Losi 8ight building and setup
12-21-2007, 06:08 AM
#5776
+1
There are NO R/C cars/trucks made in the U.S.A. any longer! At least since Thunder Tigers aquisition of A/E. Even some of the items on Japanese R/C cars are made in Taiwan or China nowadays, since it's all about the profit in business. If the market value for an item is $500 and you can make it in the U.S. for $430 or make it in China for $81 it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what will happen.
Of course we don't hold China/Taiwan/India and similar countries to the same standards we empose on our own manufacturers.
Labor Laws
Human Rights
Enviornmental regulation
Taxation
Property values
Unions
Annual cost of living raises
Kind of tips the scales....Yet, some want to impose more rules and regs in our own borders, while they shop at Wal-Mart for overseas merchandise.
ODD, unless damaging our long term soverinty was the goal?
Sorry for the long post, got rolling,
.
...Jim
W.E.D.
There are NO R/C cars/trucks made in the U.S.A. any longer! At least since Thunder Tigers aquisition of A/E. Even some of the items on Japanese R/C cars are made in Taiwan or China nowadays, since it's all about the profit in business. If the market value for an item is $500 and you can make it in the U.S. for $430 or make it in China for $81 it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what will happen.
Of course we don't hold China/Taiwan/India and similar countries to the same standards we empose on our own manufacturers.
Labor Laws
Human Rights
Enviornmental regulation
Taxation
Property values
Unions
Annual cost of living raises
Kind of tips the scales....Yet, some want to impose more rules and regs in our own borders, while they shop at Wal-Mart for overseas merchandise.
ODD, unless damaging our long term soverinty was the goal?
Sorry for the long post, got rolling,
....Jim
W.E.D.
12-21-2007, 05:42 PM
#5777
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I already solved the ackerman slop problem.
1)Drill the ackerman holes to 1/4" and then press in sleeve bearings:
From McMaster-Carr: SAE 841 Bronze sleeve bearings p/n 6391K113
2)Then drill those out to 5/32"
3)Next insert new shoulder screws: McMaster-Carr: p/n 93985A524
Put a drop of after run oil on and you're done.
1)Drill the ackerman holes to 1/4" and then press in sleeve bearings:
From McMaster-Carr: SAE 841 Bronze sleeve bearings p/n 6391K113
2)Then drill those out to 5/32"
3)Next insert new shoulder screws: McMaster-Carr: p/n 93985A524
Put a drop of after run oil on and you're done.
I altered the process SLIGHTLY.
1) I dremeled the flat spots out of the holes first, to help keep the drill bit from "walking" off-center.
2) Then I drilled the 1/4" holes.
3) Tapped in the bearings with a hammer. NOTE: 1/8" bearings are slightly "longer" than the thickness of the ackerman... this comes in handy, as I will explain in a moment.
4) Drilled the centers to 5/32. One of them "spun" in the ackerman, so I clamped a set of "Vise Grips" on it, and drilled.
5) Since I didn't like the fact that the fit was loose enough for the drill bit to spin it, I gave that a little thought... hmmm... I decided to "compress" the bushings with the vise grips to expand them in the holes in the ackerman for a tighter fit. Works like a champ! Drilled to 5/32" and installed. Now I have nice, tight fitting bushings that are flush with the ackerman plate on top and bottom.
6) Installed the bolts and put a drop of after-run oil. Nice, tight steering and no binding. Great!
We'll see how long it holds up in race use.
12-21-2007, 11:59 PM
#5779
Tech Rookie
What do you think about this?? I just got an 8ight, are there any problems with the diffs that this might solve?
http://www.neobuggy.net/modules/newb...#forumpost9143
http://www.neobuggy.net/modules/newb...#forumpost9143
12-22-2007, 12:02 AM
#5780
Actually....LOL......
Associated/Thunder Tiger is from China.
Losi/Sprotworks is from Taiwan.
I think the reason the X cars cost as much as they do is the shipping those guys must pay to get the parts to make them run.
Being honest with customs......Priceless!
TEX
Good point Jim.
Associated/Thunder Tiger is from China.
Losi/Sprotworks is from Taiwan.
I think the reason the X cars cost as much as they do is the shipping those guys must pay to get the parts to make them run.
Being honest with customs......Priceless!
TEX
Good point Jim.
12-22-2007, 12:10 AM
#5782
Shananagins!!!!! hahaha.... Happy Holiday's Tex ol' buddy!!!
hahaha.... Happy Holiday's Tex ol' buddy!!!
12-22-2007, 09:32 AM
#5783
What do you think about this?? I just got an 8ight, are there any problems with the diffs that this might solve?
http://www.neobuggy.net/modules/newb...#forumpost9143
http://www.neobuggy.net/modules/newb...#forumpost9143
12-22-2007, 01:58 PM
#5784
Is it the rear gearbox or front gearbox that feels tight? With metal gears there should be no need to break them in, they should have the perfect mesh from the get go, try loosening the screws on the gearbox cases off 1/2 turn and see it it helps, i had a bit of trouble with the rear bearing inserts seating properly, the alluminum ones fixed the problem and the car has perfect smooth gear mesh everywhere before i even cranked the engine over.
12-23-2007, 04:56 PM
#5786
Pink_sleeve, to tell the truth, i'm not positive, but from friends in the industry I know the Kyosho stuff is "Mostly" made in Japan and the Academy is "Mostly" made in Taiwan.
I would assume some of those companies items may also be made in China, Indonesia, etc. as others are doing, to help shave costs/increase profit.
I even noticed in the Harley Davidson stores that they have alot of "Chrome Goodies" made in China, or similar countries.
LOL
The way of the world I suppose, only consumers can determine if it is the way to go, since we are all so cost concious. I guess this is how it is accomplished.
...Jim
W.E.D.
I would assume some of those companies items may also be made in China, Indonesia, etc. as others are doing, to help shave costs/increase profit.
I even noticed in the Harley Davidson stores that they have alot of "Chrome Goodies" made in China, or similar countries.
LOLThe way of the world I suppose, only consumers can determine if it is the way to go, since we are all so cost concious. I guess this is how it is accomplished.
...Jim
W.E.D.
12-24-2007, 10:19 AM
#5787
Tech Rookie
Hi, i have just built my losi 8ight and set it up on adam drakes set up for rough tracks. i set the droop as he recomends, by measuring the shocks. the front seems fine , but he says the rear shock length is 106mm. with this setting, it seems the car has little or no rear droop. surely this cant be correct? am i missing something here, or is that actually how he runs it?
thanks.
thanks.
12-24-2007, 10:56 AM
#5788
thats how most people run it.. measuring from the center of the screw and the shock mount
12-24-2007, 12:52 PM
#5789
Tech Rookie
Ah, you measure from the center of the screw - center of shock mount. that will make a difference. i measured total shock length.
12-24-2007, 02:49 PM
#5790
Yeah... measure from the center of the top screw to the center of the bottom screw to get your measurements. It is different if you have differing shock locations from the one he is calling for.
I find that 108mm is the good setting for me on the low side with 110mm being the high side figure.
Rear droop makes a bif difference in this car.
Shins CARL! That is what that was!
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
See you in Jan for the Ice Breaker??
TEX
I find that 108mm is the good setting for me on the low side with 110mm being the high side figure.
Rear droop makes a bif difference in this car.
Shins CARL! That is what that was!
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
See you in Jan for the Ice Breaker??
TEX