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Old 02-11-2007, 07:18 PM   #1816
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thanks everybody for the tips about what to change up in a rtr! now im hearing my track wont allow me to run the rtr engine mach 427, i think, so im wondering what kinda engine to invest in and if it is a direct fit or is there any modifications i need to make. i cant wait to start racing. im in massachusetts and the local track is frozen and shut down til spring. also,should i get a new pipe or is the rtr good enough? if yes what kinda pipe and engine go good together.?
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Old 02-11-2007, 07:28 PM   #1817
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Trebor, if you want a rockin engine for the 8, I would suggest the O.S. .21vg. For about $140 bucks you'll get a great motor,that's plenty fast fot the 8. You will have to get a starter box, but thats something you will have to invest in sooner or later if you plan on competing competitively. If money is a problem then use the rtr pipe. If not a O.S. pipe is a great pipe for this motor. Or if you want a great universal pipe i suggest the jammin JP-3. I hope this help's.
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Old 02-11-2007, 07:56 PM   #1818
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how about the jammin1 pipe? what kind os pipe? or do they make just one pipe?does the os 21 vg fit right in?
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Old 02-11-2007, 08:27 PM   #1819
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The motor will fit right in, but you need the motor mounts from the Kit version to lower it enough to use with a starter box.
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Old 02-11-2007, 08:29 PM   #1820
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Oh yah, pipe selection should be based on where you want the power band. JP-1 is better for take off, and JP-2 is for top end power, JP-3 is best of both worlds, that's why it was suggested.
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Old 02-11-2007, 08:56 PM   #1821
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ok where can i get a os..21 vg. for $140? im not sure if my local track has them. ok, so a jammin 3 is the best then. for some reason i thought te jammin 1 would be but thanks guys!
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:49 AM   #1822
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If your track were small, tight, and technical, needing lots of bottom end power, then a JP-1 would be the ticket, and vice versa for the JP-2. the JP-3 is a little of each.

Here's the cheapet I've seen the VG:

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/9018
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:54 AM   #1823
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I run on hard packed clay and I'm breaking on average 1 front shock standoff every weekend. does anyone know of a fix for this? I'm thinking about retrofitting a mugen mbx5 front standoff to replace my losi stock ones..
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Hi, I also broke one when I am only on my 4th tank when I was clearing over a table top.

I immediately switch to the ones that I use for my Jammin X1CR. It just fits perfectly.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:55 AM   #1824
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Most tracks should let you run your 8RTR motor for a few times in the 1/8 buggy class. That's almost greedy to ask someone to buy a new motor (startbox, etc)... (Yes I know it's not legal for competition. But for the first few times, why not?)

Anyway, you might find yourself getting better customer service if you buy your motor from your LHS. This is good when you need help tuning your motor. But if your LHS is just after your wallet, then you make your own call who you shop with.

Check out www.amainhobbies.com or www.towerhobbies.com for O.S. engines.

And the best place to shop for 8ight parts: losipartshouse.com !
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how can losi call it a "ready to race" if you cant use the 427 power plant?
if i had known that at the start i would have brought the kit seen as i have to buy another engine now
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how can losi call it a "ready to race" if you cant use the 427 power plant?
if i had known that at the start i would have brought the kit seen as i have to buy another engine now
RTR as a general rule stands for Ready to Run, not Ready to Race. Also, since the RTR market is geared not towards racing so much as bashing and an introduction to RC, it makes more sense for the company to include a cheaper larger mill that can take abuse, provides a respectable amount of power,and possibly even higher top speed than a smaller mill more suited to racing that can be more difficult for a novice to tune and care for.

Also, racing kits (losi 8 kit included) are often notdesigned to accept pullstart or rotostart engines (the kind preferred by RTRs for their useability), and so if they included a bumpstart engine, it requires the buyer to purchase a bumpstarter as well...

Basically, RTRs are great for a taste for the sport and club racing without requiring the buyer to drop over 1200 on the kit, a competitive engine, and radio gear.
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:32 PM   #1827
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Alot of tracks will let you race the RTR motor along as it is the one that came with it. In all fairness the Mach 427 makes about the same power as many of the $300 .21 motors do.
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Old 02-12-2007, 02:05 PM   #1828
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any other cheap mills you can recomend? O mighty track masters!!
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Old 02-12-2007, 02:05 PM   #1829
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i agree but i wish i would have known before i bought it but im fairlynew to this and at the time i was thinkin for only $50 more i get it with dsm engine, servos,starter,and already built. what a deal!!! wrong! i dont regret buying it because its probably the best buggy out there right now. so whatever. thanks all.
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A good motor for the money is the Novarossi T21bf, they are usually $179.99 at amainhobbies.
If you needed a radio the rtr is still a pretty good way to go, like everyone said they should let you run the rtr motor.

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