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Old 09-12-2007, 01:59 PM   #616
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Here is the way that Stormer lists the clutch spring choices. See where the Gold say's 25 deg. and the Silver says 30 deg. That is the part that what is confusing to me. I am unsure what the degree represents. I know what the different thickness are (.036 vs .040), that I understand, it's just those damn degrees that is throughing me.

LOSA9112 Losi 8ight/8ight-T Clutch Springs, black (.036"/25 degree) (4) — MSRP $5.00 3.95 In Stock
LOSA9113 Losi 8ight/8ight-T Clutch Springs, green (.036"/30 degree) (4) — MSRP $5.00 3.95 In Stock
LOSA9114 Losi 8ight/8ight-T Clutch Springs, gold (.040"/25 degree) (4) — MSRP $5.00 3.95 In Stock
LOSA9115 Losi 8ight/8ight-T Clutch Springs, silver (.040"/30 degree) (4) — MSRP $5.00
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:27 PM   #617
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The 25 degree springs have more tension than the 30 degree springs of the same diameter wire.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:37 PM   #618
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satoch isn't that backwards? I'm quite sure the golds are softer therefore less tension than the silvers. Try them out for yourself, so the 30 degree are supposed to have higher tension.
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The 30* springs are harder. The degree represents the angle. If you take a spring and lay the longer sidetowards the right, the smaller side will have an angle. The higher the angle, the stiffer the spring.
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Man, I have been jonesing to drive this thing for a while. Our last race was a week and a half ago. My T is runs very strong with the O.S. 21 VG. It has the right amount of traction and power for the tracks around here. I need to do some pipe testing with it though. I only have the JP-2 pipe for it and seems to lack slightly on the top end. Might be a good thing though. I can't overshoot the corners as easily. LOL. JK. Gettin' antsy for the weekend.
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The 30* springs are harder. The degree represents the angle. If you take a spring and lay the longer sidetowards the right, the smaller side will have an angle. The higher the angle, the stiffer the spring.


...so then the Green (.036"/30 degree) is actually harder than the Gold (.040"/25 degree)



...man I hope I am not sounding stupid by asking these questions
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The 30 degree vs. a 25 degree is just a finer difference. The 30 degree will be harder. The .036 wire is always more flexible than the .040 wire.
The greens are softer than the gold and harder yet are the silvers.
Golds and greens are what I run mostly. The great thing about the Losi clutch is you can mix and match all you want.

For buggy..... This is just so you may understand better.
Right now for slick surfaces I run 2x 7075 (hard aluminum) on green springs w/ 1x 7075 & 1x carbon on gold springs.
If the track has enough bite then I run all gold springs.

The one carbon shoe kind of bleeds over into the face of the aluminum shoes so they do not grab quite as hard as running all aluminum. They also don't wear nearly as fast.

For trucks you might want a little more clutch because of the weight you are pushing. Gold and siver spring combinations with maybe even going to soft aluminum shoes for some of the combination for a harder grab. This is what is comming in the truck stock now and it works very well. I think it is 2x 6160blue aluminum shoes & 2x 7075 silver shoes. Two gold and two on silver springs. I don't remember which two but it does work well.

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I just think its cool, that a VG pushes the big truggy.
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I just think its cool, that a VG pushes the big truggy.
And pushes it very well. CAN'T WAIT FOR SATURDAY!!
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Good deal... And just think, i babied that thing...
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You hooked me up for sure. This engine is fantastic. Tons of grunt. But I use a JP-1 pipe and that does limit the top end slightly. But I love it. I'm turning most of the time anyways so it works out.
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How does it compare to the novarossi?
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The 21BF is good. But no where near the torque. If I were on a dry slippery track, I'd use the 21BF to get some traction before going full wood. It works good on the T also. I notice different behaviors but don't have any complaints. I like them both.
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I might try the modded vg in the truggy. I dont think itll have the sauce as the plus-5 but we'll see.
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