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Old 01-21-2011, 07:41 PM   #46
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We got to track test the Sweeps last night and wanted to give everyone an update on what we decided.
The Sweep 25deg premounts will be the new replacment tire for the Mini Cooper class at LSRCC. They work great on the track, are the least expensive tire set we can find and are supposed to wear much better than the kit tires, and can be purchased direct from Sweep Racing. Here is a link,
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Faster lap times over the kit tires? Thanks for finding a cheaper option.
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Let's just say you won't be disappointed with the perfomance of the Sweeps!
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We have not tested them yet. If they are faster we may have some issues. Cheaper is not always better. equality is much more important.
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Good performance,less expensive,last longer are always better than a little less performance, more expensive, wear out too fast,unless of course you are in the buisness of selling tires.
This is what we are doing at LSRCC, it would be nice if you were to do the same at your track.
For a lot of racers cheaper is better and if the car works better too it is a win-win.
The kit tires wear quickly and need to be replaced, it only makes sense to replace them with a tire that works better and costs less.

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Old 01-21-2011, 10:43 PM   #51
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well have to see.. if they are faster it becomes a requirement which just raises the cost. Shocks and bearings already there..


So far the tires will easily do half a season.. so even if it takes two sets for a year it still pretty cheap and equal.. buy it off the shelf and race.
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Again, I'm just letting racers know what we decided to do at our club, we hope you do the same at MMR, but it is up to you.
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It will really come from the drivers: chris, jeff, jp, homer, Billy, Greg . If they are all ok with another tire then it will probably go through. If it risks some of them racing then it will probably not be allowed or have a delayed entry.
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I think this is Andrews point. I have only two race days on my kit tires so they have a lot of life left but if everyone else show up with Sweeps that are faster then I am forced to spend another $25.00 to stay competitive. I am just using this as a example and I don't have a problem with it.
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I do undertand that point of view. Now try to understand ours. When the cars are raced more than 2 times the kit tires will wear out and need to be replaced, why not spend your money on a better set of tires that cost less and last longer? Not everyones tires are going to wear out at exactly the same time and some need to buy tires now, Billy, Greg G, and myself are looking at worn out tires and need to do something now, not wait untill everybody elses tires wear out. Billy, Wiita, and myself all tried the Sweeps the other night and we decided this would be the best option for a replacement. We have been talking about this since we started running the minis and cost was a big factor in this decision, nobody wants to spend more than they have to. I thought it would be better to let everyone know about this now instead of waiting so others can plan ahead to get theirs before the next time we have a weekend race. The decision has been made now because sometimes sooner is better than later.
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Again half a season of racing, sometimes as much as twice a week is perfectly acceptable wear for the tires. The playing field has to be level and 8 days before we go on the track again is not acceptable timeline.

Currently we would have to say the tire is not legal to run. But we will evaluate for future use. We do need to test the tires and see if there is any advantage to the tire.. Really the most important issue.

Price point works but no Shop has them in stock as of yet, nor have they had enough time to react. I do believe HT, Hub, Kings,and MMR can get them on the shelf in the next 10-20 days though and at that point we can look at adding them if the group of local racers considers them not to be a unfair advantage.

The whole point of off the shelf spec stock is just that the addition of a set of tires, bearings, shocks, hmm what's next?
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Again half a season of racing, sometimes as much as twice a week is perfectly acceptable wear for the tires. The playing field has to be level and 8 days before we go on the track again is not acceptable timeline.

Currently we would have to say the tire is not legal to run. But we will evaluate for future use. We do need to test the tires and see if there is any advantage to the tire.. Really the most important issue.

Price point works but no Shop has them in stock as of yet, nor have they had enough time to react. I do believe HT, Hub, Kings,and MMR can get them on the shelf in the next 10-20 days though and at that point we can look at adding them if the group of local racers considers them not to be a unfair advantage.

The whole point of off the shelf spec stock is just that the addition of a set of tires, bearings, shocks, hmm what's next?

There was no laptime advantage that was noticeable at our program this week. They might have felt faster but they are not proven to be any faster, just cheaper.
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That's what we need to know, test.
Do you have laptimes from same driver, same car, same track conditions?
Also what rounds who ran what. We can use that also to evaluate as soon as someone hits the upload button on results.
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That's what we need to know, test.
Do you have laptimes from same driver, same car, same track conditions?
Also what rounds who ran what. We can use that also to evaluate as soon as someone hits the upload button on results.
Wiita ran them in practice, Greg ran them first round, Billy ran them second round. No one ran them in the main.
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Now who has the laptop and can turn it on and hit upload...????
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