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Old 02-14-2009, 02:14 PM   #31
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I''ve got a micro T that does 100+++! It's all in choosing the right sized flux capacitor!
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everyone has to be kidding me, talking shit and making fun!!!!!!!!!!

we have things that we want to try and make an accomplishment, whether it is reachable or not, we wont know unless we try and shame on everyone that thinks we cant, i mean seriously, if you could not jump a foot off the ground and you tried, and everyone said you couldn't, you know you would at least make some attempts to do it, so SHAME ONE EVERYONE THAT SAYS ITS NOT POSSIBLE!!!! i am not talking shit i am expressing the way i feel about people that are negative nancies and talk shit b/c they never thought the way we do or the fact that they did not think of it first.

this is CRAZY that people want to put other people down about their ideas, but when they make a post they expect nice things or CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM! we both are only getting crap from people!

sorry for the ones that do input good info or props for our GENIUS IDEAS!

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everyone has to be kidding me, talking shit and making fun!!!!!!!!!!

we have things that we want to try and make an accomplishment, whether it is reachable or not, we wont know unless we try and shame on everyone that thinks we cant, i mean seriously, if you could not jump a foot off the ground and you tried, and everyone said you couldn't, you know you would at least make some attempts to do it, so SHAME ONE EVERYONE THAT SAYS ITS NOT POSSIBLE!!!! i am not talking shit i am expressing the way i feel about people that are negative nancies and talk shit b/c they never thought the way we do or the fact that they did not think of it first.

this is CRAZY that people want to put other people down about their ideas, but when they make a post they expect nice things or CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM! we both are only getting crap from people!

sorry for the ones that do input good info or props for our GENIUS IDEAS!

thanks and sorry for the ones that might be offended.

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What is SHAMEFULL is your thread on another forum begging people to send you parts and BL systems and stuff so you can acheive your goal of making a 100mph miniquake, and then whining about the CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM you recieved when people tried to explain to you that it not only wasn't a worthy pursuit but impossible.
If you chose to jump off a cliff to see if you can fly keep it to yourself, it keeps the embarrassment to a minimum when people call you CRAZY. And if by some freak of nature you do accomplish it then fine, come back and brag about your GENIUS.
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Well of course it's not a viable option, but it's sure as h3!! fun to watch!!!

Where's the new vid?

I''ve got a micro T that does 100+++! It's all in choosing the right sized flux capacitor!
Why isnt it a viable option? lol I must admit it is fun to watch...
Still have to get that vid, I've been working on finding a metal shop to
make a solid one piece mount.. One side you will beable to put a 540 motor the other a stock or 1:18th size motor... By next week I should have a fabricated motor mount.
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Sports cars DO NOT slow down for corners, dump trucks do.
You wouldn't be interested in my set up since it's for actual racing.
Umm yeah your so right I'm not intrested anymore...
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What is SHAMEFULL is your thread on another forum begging people to send you parts and BL systems and stuff so you can acheive your goal of making a 100mph miniquake, and then whining about the CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM you recieved when people tried to explain to you that it not only wasn't a worthy pursuit but impossible.
If you chose to jump off a cliff to see if you can fly keep it to yourself, it keeps the embarrassment to a minimum when people call you CRAZY. And if by some freak of nature you do accomplish it then fine, come back and brag about your GENIUS.
Umm he is not jumping off a cliff he is just trying to reach a goal.. and honestly your criticism isnt very constructive... Nothing shamefull about asking for help..
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I just think aerodynamically it's just not going to work to 100mph, but I'm sure it will get going pretty fast. People have trouble getting onroad cars near this speed.

But if that thing hits 50-60mph, and gets a bit twitchy and rolls, it's all over in a pile of pieces I would think..... I hope those LiPo's are well protected for safety's sake...
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I just think aerodynamically it's just not going to work to 100mph, but I'm sure it will get going pretty fast. People have trouble getting onroad cars near this speed.

But if that thing hits 50-60mph, and gets a bit twitchy and rolls, it's all over in a pile of pieces I would think..... I hope those LiPo's are well protected for safety's sake...
Hey how fast can on road cars go 1:18 scale brushless?
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Hey how fast can on road cars go 1:18 scale brushless?
Not sure...I was stating 1:10 & 1:8th scale had trouble....let alone a 1:18th scale on-road......
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Why isnt it a viable option? lol I must admit it is fun to watch...
Still have to get that vid, I've been working on finding a metal shop to
make a solid one piece mount.. One side you will beable to put a 540 motor the other a stock or 1:18th size motor... By next week I should have a fabricated motor mount.
Well, not that it wouldn't be fun to do, or anything, and I certainly don't want to be a part of stifling anyone's creativity, but the mini lst's drivetrain (diffs, dogbones, and such) aren't designed to do the 2 things you're trying to do. 1; push around that much weight. 2; use that much torque to push around the increased weight. To exaggerate the point, let's say you could strap a v8 engine to a little rc car but the torque required to move the added weight, would snap the dogbones or strip the diffs before it moved an inch. In my mind "a viable option" would mean something that is at least somewhat reliable.

Don't get me wrong, you'll get some run time out of it, but it won't be long before things start to go south.

As far as both ideas that are going on here, yours and Dancomer's, in order to make them work with any degree of practicality, the vehicles will have to be modified to the point of no longer being a mini lst, or mini quake. The question is, where is the line drawn? How much modifying can you do before an object (rc car or whatever) loses it's identity?

But I like both ideas and think you guys should freakin go for it!

I gotta tell ya though I've had some pretty fast minis and 1/10 scales over the years and SHORT WHEELBASE+ULTRA HIGH SPEED=SQUIRLY @$$ed RIDE! It gets to the point that you have to roll off the throttle very carefully because any change in the vehicles attitude at those speeds is multiplied exponentially and can produce undesirable results.

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lol I just wanted to put a 540 brushed sized motor in the mlst..
So far the diffs have held up with the front and rear shimmed center locked.. That's with a 540 brushed.... I also did not expect the diffs to handle the 540brushed first few runs but it did.. unfortunately due to popular demand I haven't ran her much because I went straight to the VXL mod.. (Which I expect my diffs to brake the first few runs lol..

Now I have busted diffs with my mamba a bunch of times just like many of us have... But we still put those brushless babies in there... .. we like the power we like the speed..

Now if the diffs hold out on the 540 brushed then we got a cheaper option that allows for power through out the spectrum.. Low end and High end..

It seems to me the only issue is the diffs.. not holding up.. but it's been mostly speculation because how many of us have a 540 brushed motor in there MLST... and can test this out.. Raise your hands... (lol or post it here)

Size... hmmm The MLST is a big MINI... do we agree on that? I have a rc18 so I can only compare her to that.. And she is much bigger, I'm thinking Bigger Body Bigger motor.. that's why most of us need to change gear when using a mamba on grass for more low-end.. or she will heat up.. Then change gears again for top end..

So Bottom line lets stop the speculation and I'll test out the 540 brushed motor to see if it's a viable option (once I'm done with the VXL mod and putting my diffs back together).. If it's not I'll post it here and at least it
we tried. But if it is a viable option.. wouldn't that be nice.? Thoughts?

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I ordered the widetrack conversion and 1/10 scale Sedan tires and adapters..
Hopefully this will give me more stability. I wish I could get the Exotek kit and a smaller 3s lipo pack but economy is bad and life is hard.. lol..

So once I get the wide track conversion and the 1/10th wheels on..
I'll do a VXL-MiniLST video. Should be crazy fast..

lol maybe faster then the new 1/16 traxxas e-revo..
I hear it can do 40 MPH
with a 3s lipo..
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wow. sports cars do not slow down for corners. what a concept.

Arpy, just out of curiosity, what is your newest member name? i'd like to add that one to my ignore list as well.
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It seems to me the only issue is the diffs.. not holding up.. but it's been mostly speculation because how many of us have a 540 brushed motor in there MLST... and can test this out.. Raise your hands... (lol or post it here)

Size... hmmm The MLST is a big MINI... do we agree on that? I have a rc18 so I can only compare her to that.. And she is much bigger, I'm thinking Bigger Body Bigger motor.. that's why most of us need to change gear when using a mamba on grass for more low-end.. or she will heat up.. Then change gears again for top end..

So Bottom line lets stop the speculation and I'll test out the 540 brushed motor to see if it's a viable option (once I'm done with the VXL mod and putting my diffs back together).. If it's not I'll post it here and at least it
we tried. But if it is a viable option.. wouldn't that be nice.? Thoughts?
First, I apologize if you've been somehow offended, but a little speculation (forethought) really should go into a project like this. Reading this latest post, it seems to me as if you're looking for a better alternative to the mamba...? The mamba is, of course, only suitable for the miniest of minis, and naturally @ only ~120 watts, wouldn't work well in a Mini LST2. If you are just looking for a motor that would work well in the MLST2 and are not just after a novelty, I'd highly recommend one of these. Easily out-powers the mambas by almost 2x in a 380 sized can (1.325x0.96"), so they should easily fit in a stock MLST,. You could even fit 2 of them in there, and watch the thing twist itself into a pretzel if that's what you're after! Plus they work VERY well with the mamba controllers, with no significant heat issues. I really don't know why people with anything bigger than a mini-t, bother with the mamba motors at all.

Still like your idea for the novelty/outrageous cool factor of it though.
Just my 2¢
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Well, not that it wouldn't be fun to do, or anything, and I certainly don't want to be a part of stifling anyone's creativity, but the mini lst's drivetrain (diffs, dogbones, and such) aren't designed to do the 2 things you're trying to do. 1; push around that much weight. 2; use that much torque to push around the increased weight. To exaggerate the point, let's say you could strap a v8 engine to a little rc car but the torque required to move the added weight, would snap the dogbones or strip the diffs before it moved an inch. In my mind "a viable option" would mean something that is at least somewhat reliable.

Don't get me wrong, you'll get some run time out of it, but it won't be long before things start to go south.

As far as both ideas that are going on here, yours and Dancomer's, in order to make them work with any degree of practicality, the vehicles will have to be modified to the point of no longer being a mini lst, or mini quake. The question is, where is the line drawn? How much modifying can you do before an object (rc car or whatever) loses it's identity?

But I like both ideas and think you guys should freakin go for it!

I gotta tell ya though I've had some pretty fast minis and 1/10 scales over the years and SHORT WHEELBASE+ULTRA HIGH SPEED=SQUIRLY @$$ed RIDE! It gets to the point that you have to roll off the throttle very carefully because any change in the vehicles attitude at those speeds is multiplied exponentially and can produce undesirable results.

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OMG thats Awsome hahahaah !!! xD
The sound of the screws tumbling is great LOL
I think i saw a Spur gear LOL !!!
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ive already tried this, even with a ball diff in the center, and vicious diffs all the way around, it failed after 2 runs, even the exotek chassis failed... lol

your putting alot of money into something that isn't meant/capable of handling it to your expectations, take this as a lesson from someone who put a 1000$ into his mini lst, and failed hard, i'd stop right now bro.
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