That looks like a very nice track. Any chance you guys could run this event when the weather is better? Like maybe the beginning of indoor season or something? I might be able to drag a few MRL racers out to this event if you could.
Also, does anyone know the track dimensions? Looks like an awesome 1/18 track Possibly similar to the size of RC Madness, which is around 70x40 or 30 I think.
The track is 80' X 40'. We will consider another try, but we licking our wounds (financially) over this one. Much of our thinking on the schedule was to put some time between ours and other bigger events. Obviously, we should have put more importance on the weather.
I think there may be a big event at Hobby Stop west in Toledo, before summer. Perhaps we can all meet up there? That track is about the same size as Hobby-Sports, and is in an old Mall. It's a really nice set-up. Josh Cyrul had a track/store there before. They are about 3 hours east of me, and I know we can get most of the Duneland/RATFactor crew to go.
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The track is 80' X 40'. We will consider another try, but we licking our wounds (financially) over this one. Much of our thinking on the schedule was to put some time between ours and other bigger events. Obviously, we should have put more importance on the weather.
I think there may be a big event at Hobby Stop west in Toledo, before summer. Perhaps we can all meet up there? That track is about the same size as Hobby-Sports, and is in an old Mall. It's a really nice set-up. Josh Cyrul had a track/store there before. They are about 3 hours east of me, and I know we can get most of the Duneland/RATFactor crew to go.
I understand.
Do you have a site or any info for it? The Gate (soggy as it is) is about an 8 hour trip for most of us, coming from MD, PA, VA and DE. Of course Wes is single handedly representing NC
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The pics posted above are of the track, but we made significant changes. I brought up my barriers which are 3" X 3" downspouts (theirs are 3 X 4) and Jayson brought a bunch of jumps he made for the event. They normally have a min of 8' lane width, my layout had 5 - 6' min width. We had a full length straight and full sweeper at the end. this was followed by a reasonably technical infield.
Jae, I don't think anyone was running 3s in off-road. Wouldn't have mattered. My permax/2 cell combo was MORE than fast enough. One simply cannot accellerate any faster than my buggy with that set-up. The NEU would have made a difference only if the track were a couple of hundred feet long. I actually turned my end point down to 80% and it would still wheely the length of the straight (or flip over) if I yanked it too fast. My buggy was great and my power was more than enough to win. I just didn't drive as well as Kris did. I was a bit off all weekend.. Getting too old I guess. I was able to make up ground down the straight and through the sweeper, but that doesn't make up for the brain farts in the infield.
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i posted my setup sheet only to show the drawing of the track i go to.. since i dont have a video of it yet... the triple can be taken by 19t motors and mod motors and 8th scale conversion buggies.. only the stock vehicles and stock slashes have to double single.. and the double with table next to the straight can be taken by all vehicles.. but the 2wd vehicles can and do out handle me.. they are larger and dont flip over as easily.. i use power to get away from them and stay away from them... im hoping to get a video today
the mongoose is a great system,, but it suffers largely in the power department...that is the reason for using smaller pinions and cutting chassis...
but im sure the race was great regardless of what was used... im stuck on this because for years i have been wanting to the vendetta to get its just recognition in races and the motors that have been proven to be powerful..
jaejw, as you likely would have garnered by now from dunland's post that all the power you keep talking about isn't needed on most tracks mini's run on - even his that was on the larger size.
Plenty of people are running the mongoose system, and I've yet to have reason to cut my chassis. The only reason I run small pinions is to match up with the 1/18th scale tracks I run it on, no reason to overgear it.
As I tried to point out before, power doesn't neccessarily win out - winning the infield twisty parts does. Being able to jump a 1/10th scale quad doesn't win out, we don't have room or use for anything like that because ours are 1/18th scale. Maybe you'll understand one day if you actually get on a smaller track, but until then all I can say is that you won't get it until you do.
jaejw, as you likely would have garnered by now from dunland's post that all the power you keep talking about isn't needed on most tracks mini's run on - even his that was on the larger size.
Plenty of people are running the mongoose system, and I've yet to have reason to cut my chassis. The only reason I run small pinions is to match up with the 1/18th scale tracks I run it on, no reason to overgear it.
As I tried to point out before, power doesn't neccessarily win out - winning the infield twisty parts does. Being able to jump a 1/10th scale quad doesn't win out, we don't have room or use for anything like that because ours are 1/18th scale. Maybe you'll understand one day if you actually get on a smaller track, but until then all I can say is that you won't get it until you do.
yes you are right.. but if someone does smoke the track with something other than the mongoose.. like the permax or the neu.. then i will say i told you so.. but until then i guess i will have to wait.. with my tail between my legs.
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yes you are right.. but if someone does smoke the track with something other than the mongoose.. like the permax or the neu.. then i will say i told you so.. but until then i guess i will have to wait.. with my tail between my legs.
I'm not saying that one of those couldn't be applicable, as long as it's the right one, but the ones you use would be like putting John Force's funny car motor in his wife's Focus grocery getter.
Might be a little fun to run out on the local airport runway, but totally inappropriate for around town driving.
I'm not saying that one of those couldn't be applicable, as long as it's the right one, but the ones you use would be like putting John Force's funny car motor in his wife's Focus grocery getter.
Might be a little fun to run out on the local airport runway, but totally inappropriate for around town driving.
not quiet the same ,, but i see where you are coming from... having to turn down the throttle cotrol to me means.. its a good thing.. better to have too much and be able to control it than not have enough and whish you did...
that is what i friend of mine experienced after driving my car on the track,,, and he was using the 10.5 mongoose.. said it just didnt have the power to take cerstain jumps and the speed to tackle the long straights... and he had to cut his chassis to keep the motor cool..
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not quiet the same ,, but i see where you are coming from... having to turn down the throttle cotrol to me means.. its a good thing.. better to have too much and be able to control it than not have enough and whish you did...
that is what i friend of mine experienced after driving my car on the track,,, and he was using the 10.5 mongoose.. said it just didnt have the power to take cerstain jumps and the speed to tackle the long straights... and he had to cut his chassis to keep the motor cool..
That's just the deal, turning it down too much means you're not using what you've got. I turn mine down past 85% and I'm grabbing for another slower motor.
I drove a buddy of mine's that had one of your recommendations in it, and it was blindingly fast on the straight but useless in the infield -- and that was turned down to 55%. I don't even know where that would be applicable? I think he even burned off a set of treads in one day at the track too.
Why put in a slower motor, when you can just turn it down? Honestly, I would put the Nue in, if it would be faster. Problem is, the permax accellerates the Detta at it's limit! I don't believe the buggy would accellerate any faster with more power. It would just flip over easier. Keep in mind, I have added a LOT of anti-squat to keep the front down (also have some lead under the drive shaft. Perhaps I could use more after I get the plate chassis done. Should be able to do more with roll-centers, thrust vectors and anti-squat then. Not to mention lower cg. Anywho, I wouldn't put the NUE in if I had to run a Mamba Max speedo. Too big! All my stuff is down of the chassis. the larger electronics will have to be stacked up--bad for cornering. It's a damn shame that the Permax is no more! I won't let go of the 2 I have. It's perfect in the Detta. I could use a bit more in the Recoil, but 3 cells pretty much takes care of that!
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Sorry I couldn't make the trip. I won't blame the weather. It was just too close to the holidays for me - but still no excuse. With that said, I would love to entertain the idea of making the trip from Ottawa (10hrs) should sometihng else come up - and I'm not just saying that. Max (racing trip buddy) won't be able to make the MRL trip in March and he's been bugging me re. another micro event this season.
We've had a very bad turnout ourselves for our fall race after many fruitless efforts which may turn out to be the nail in the coffin for our track unless we get better turnouts so I understand the frustration of putting a lot of effort and getting low turnout.
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The track is 80' X 40'. We will consider another try, but we licking our wounds (financially) over this one. Much of our thinking on the schedule was to put some time between ours and other bigger events. Obviously, we should have put more importance on the weather.
I think there may be a big event at Hobby Stop west in Toledo, before summer. Perhaps we can all meet up there? That track is about the same size as Hobby-Sports, and is in an old Mall. It's a really nice set-up. Josh Cyrul had a track/store there before. They are about 3 hours east of me, and I know we can get most of the Duneland/RATFactor crew to go.
Woodville Mall??? I'm down for a couple of months for knee replacement ......would be great to come back to a micro race.....let me know Duneland
Do you have a site or any info for it? The Gate (soggy as it is) is about an 8 hour trip for most of us, coming from MD, PA, VA and DE. Of course Wes is single handedly representing NC
Anywho, I wouldn't put the NUE in if I had to run a Mamba Max speedo. Too big! All my stuff is down of the chassis. the larger electronics will have to be stacked up--bad for cornering. It's a damn shame that the Permax is no more! I won't let go of the 2 I have. It's perfect in the Detta. I could use a bit more in the Recoil, but 3 cells pretty much takes care of that!
i only use the mamba max because the 10th scale sidewinder was not out at the time... the sidewinder would do just fine..
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Possibly similar to the size of RC Madness, which is around 70x40 or 30 I think.
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