NORTH AMERICAN MINI CHAMPIONSHIPS - Page 12

duneland · 01-13-2009, 10:55 AM

Mike, I will try to get some up later. It was a nice layout with a lot of speed and some fairly technical sections.

Jae, I think I covered that earlier, but anyway, Jayson was VERY strong in the main, with a win as a possibillity. Then he busticated his Detta

. Out after lap 13. Kris finished with 22, I had 21, Bob had 19 and John Davis had 18. And, there were NO restrictions on motor or battery! I'm really liking the Trackpower/Flightpower 1600 in the Detta! Great low-end grunt and stays cool.

jaejw1 · 01-13-2009, 11:30 AM

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Jae, I think I covered that earlier, but anyway, Jayson was VERY strong in the main, with a win as a possibillity. Then he busticated his Detta

. Out after lap 13. .

and this was with the permax motor correct... and kris using the mongoose.. ???? was either one of them using a 3s lipo ..

with m not being there and no video being posted im trying to visualize the race... I NEED MORE CREATIVE WRITING

.. just kidding

i would just like to know if the permax had a chance.. too bad the neu wasnt there.. for shame

..

the flightpower evolite 2s 1600mah... has been my favorite since i first tested it... might be a good thing to do a lil review on the site that sells them,,, http://www.rchobbysports.com/index.p...5421feaa6e1a32

WFO7640 · 01-13-2009, 11:44 AM

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was either one of them using a 3s lipo ..

Probably there was no need for one

jaejw1 · 01-13-2009, 11:50 AM

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Probably there was no need for one

well not to engage in argument.. but inorder for a mongoose to beat a permax.. it had to either be powered by a 3s lipo while the permaxes were 2s.... or the driver himself was just stupid awesome... i would rather believe the the driver was awesome and not that he used a 3s lipo...

WFO7640 · 01-13-2009, 12:02 PM

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well not to engage in argument.. but inorder for a mongoose to beat a permax.. it had to either be powered by a 3s lipo while the permaxes were 2s.... or the driver himself was just stupid awesome... i would rather believe the the driver was awesome and not that he used a 3s lipo...

well not to engage in argument.. but since you've admittedly never run on a 1/18th-sized track, that the whole concept of overpowering a track would be something you've never considered.

jaejw1 · 01-13-2009, 12:04 PM

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well not to engage in argument.. but since you've admittedly never run on a 1/18th-sized track, that the whole concept of overpowering a track would be something you've never considered.

tht is true.. but from what i understood.. this track was supposed to be larer than your average 18th scale track,,,

jaejw1 · 01-13-2009, 12:12 PM

from the looks of it... this might even be a 10th scale track,,

http://www.hobby-sports.com/imgs/track.jpg

http://www.hobby-sports.com/cart/car...ackShots31.jpg

http://www.hobby-sports.com/cart/car...ackShots38.jpg

http://www.hobby-sports.com/cart/car...ackShots64.jpg

http://www.hobby-sports.com/cart/car...ackShots69.jpg

WFO7640 · 01-13-2009, 12:13 PM

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tht is true.. but from what i understood.. this track was supposed to be larer than your average 18th scale track,,,

Larger maybe, but I'd seriously doubt that it was of the size of the 10th scale tracks you're used to where the extra power could be used and would be of an advantage.

jaejw1 · 01-13-2009, 12:19 PM

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Larger maybe, but I'd seriously doubt that it was of the size of the 10th scale tracks you're used to where the extra power could be used and would be of an advantage.

well looking at the straight from the pics i posted above... the length seems to be about the same.. 90 feet or so.. more than enough room to let a permax or neu stretch its legs..

WFO7640 · 01-13-2009, 12:24 PM

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well looking at the straight from the pics i posted above... the length seems to be about the same.. 90 feet or so.. more than enough room to let a permax or neu stretch its legs..

Never raced anywhere where winning the dragrace down the straight left one ahead at the end of of all the accompanying twisty sections.

punkboy · 01-13-2009, 12:30 PM

That looks like a very nice track. Any chance you guys could run this event when the weather is better? Like maybe the beginning of indoor season or something? I might be able to drag a few MRL racers out to this event if you could.

Also, does anyone know the track dimensions? Looks like an awesome 1/18 track

Possibly similar to the size of RC Madness, which is around 70x40 or 30 I think.

jaejw1 · 01-13-2009, 12:31 PM

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Never raced anywhere where winning the dragrace down the straight left one ahead at the end of of all the accompanying twisty sections.

its not about winning the drag.. its about closing gaps and making gaps larger.... this is where my lil 18th scaler shines most on large tracks,, the ability to take the largest of jumps (over jumping others) and being able to pull away or catch up in the straight..

just buy a neu motor and see for yourself... u will be mamazed at the raw brute power... and smoothness of the motor.. there is nothing like it..

WFO7640 · 01-13-2009, 12:49 PM

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its not about winning the drag.. its about closing gaps and making gaps larger.... this is where my lil 18th scaler shines most on large tracks,, the ability to take the largest of jumps (over jumping others) and being able to pull away or catch up in the straight..

just buy a neu motor and see for yourself... u will be mamazed at the raw brute power... and smoothness of the motor.. there is nothing like it..

Dude, the 1/10th tracks you race at you typically run against 2wd 1/10th scale trucks that not only suffer handling-wise compared to your rigs but also suffer from the 4wd traction advantage you have. You run on tracks where you're the only car in your heat that can fly over the big jumps, that weren't BTW designed to be taken all at once, and jump OVER other cars in your heat -- something that happens no where else (at least routinely). I'm not trashing you personally, just trying to point that much of the stuff you mention doesn't happen via driver skill.

I'm waiting for someone that was there to weigh back in with the particulars -- but all that I'm saying is that you are used to pulling a lot of manuvers (that you'd never be able to pull off) and having all the advantages of all that power you have at hand that would be of no benefit whatsoever at almost any 1/18th-sized track anywhere.

And I think much of your confusion on a 'Goose actually winning out is your confusion on what you get away with with your bigblocks that wouldn't be applicable most places.

duneland · 01-13-2009, 12:54 PM

The pics posted above are of the track, but we made significant changes. I brought up my barriers which are 3" X 3" downspouts (theirs are 3 X 4) and Jayson brought a bunch of jumps he made for the event. They normally have a min of 8' lane width, my layout had 5 - 6' min width. We had a full length straight and full sweeper at the end. this was followed by a reasonably technical infield.

Jae, I don't think anyone was running 3s in off-road. Wouldn't have mattered. My permax/2 cell combo was MORE than fast enough. One simply cannot accellerate any faster than my buggy with that set-up. The NEU would have made a difference only if the track were a couple of hundred feet long. I actually turned my end point down to 80% and it would still wheely the length of the straight (or flip over) if I yanked it too fast. My buggy was great and my power was more than enough to win. I just didn't drive as well as Kris did. I was a bit off all weekend.. Getting too old I guess. I was able to make up ground down the straight and through the sweeper, but that doesn't make up for the brain farts in the infield

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jaejw1 · 01-13-2009, 01:02 PM

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Dude, the 1/10th tracks you race at you typically run against 2wd 1/10th scale trucks that not only suffer handling-wise compared to your rigs but also suffer from the 4wd traction advantage you have. You run on tracks where you're the only car in your heat that can fly over the big jumps, that weren't BTW designed to be taken all at once, and jump OVER other cars in your heat -- something that happens no where else (at least routinely). I'm not trashing you personally, just trying to point that much of the stuff you mention doesn't happen via driver skill.

I'm waiting for someone that was there to weigh back in with the particulars -- but all that I'm saying is that you are used to pulling a lot of manuvers (that you'd never be able to pull off) and having all the advantages of all that power you have at hand that would be of no benefit whatsoever at almost any 1/18th-sized track anywhere.

And I think much of your confusion on a 'Goose actually winning out is your confusion on what you get away with with your bigblocks that wouldn't be applicable most places.

i posted my setup sheet only to show the drawing of the track i go to.. since i dont have a video of it yet... the triple can be taken by 19t motors and mod motors and 8th scale conversion buggies.. only the stock vehicles and stock slashes have to double single.. and the double with table next to the straight can be taken by all vehicles.. but the 2wd vehicles can and do out handle me.. they are larger and dont flip over as easily.. i use power to get away from them and stay away from them... im hoping to get a video today

the mongoose is a great system,, but it suffers largely in the power department...that is the reason for using smaller pinions and cutting chassis...

but im sure the race was great regardless of what was used... im stuck on this because for years i have been wanting to the vendetta to get its just recognition in races and the motors that have been proven to be powerful..

congrats to all that won and almost won..