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Old 05-09-2008, 10:02 PM   #1
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There was a rumor about UK hosting one. How would one qualify though since we have no IFMAR backup?
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There was a rumor about UK hosting one. How would one qualify though since we have no IFMAR backup?
compared to the larger scales there are only a few national/international
caliber micro drivers....
Then add in the cost to travel to an international venue and the number shrinks.....
especially now with the strong euro-weak dollar....
It would make more sense to have the Worlds here in the US. (hint)
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Way back when we were going to call our race the Micro World Nationals... It sounded too funny...
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Yes, it IS happening in the UK next year. We already have a World's Warm Up happening in August I believe, more details to follow:

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We are "planning" to host a Micro Worlds next year...its still in a planning stage though.

You dont need IFMAR backing either...You only need IFMAR backing for an IFMAR Worlds...
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How would one qualify then? Thats what separates the worlds from a nationals in part that it relies on the best O the best. Placing in the A main at each countries Nationals? But since we have no international regulation board behind us, what do you consider what is truly a Nationals?

Example:
Madness Off-road Nationals
Madness On-road Nationals
Stormer Short Track Nationals
Then there was another one called like the Dirt Nationals in Wyoming I think.

Again, if this is truly going to be a Worlds event as how it has been defined by the racing community for decades, you cant just have any Tom, Dick, or Harry being able to attend without some kind of credentials.

Also, then there are the differences in rules between each country. Will the rules be a combination of the most prominent one for each? Or just a reflection of the BRCA MicroX rules alone?
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Oxy,

Because we are NOT governed by any International governing bodies, what other classes do at their Worlds and Euro's etc doesnt have to apply to 'us'. Why do so many people seem to think 'we' micro racers should follow the trends rather than being different and exciting?

Anyways, the first 1/5th Bike worlds was held in the UK, open to all, rules decided by the host club. The event was a resounding success and now they are onto their 3rd or 4th Worlds...with each host country deciding the rules within reason.

If the UK hosts the first Worlds then it will be to the UK rules.

My main concern is that there seems to be very little positivity and alot of negitivity from people who know about these plans, like your post above.
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c0sie,

from what you describe though, would not be a worlds. What separates it from a nationals other than putting "Worlds" in front? Hell, I could call our next race meeting over here the 1/18th Worlds. That wouldn't make it that though.

How are you supporting a "world" view if your only relying on your own countries rules as the basis alone? I could see you calling it a International race, but worlds... You gotta give us more. It has to be special and unique.

If I don't point out these flaws, someone else will. I like the idea of a worlds, but if it isn't done right, it will simply make our class size even more of a joke in comparison to other scales.

1/5th is a much smaller (and dedicated money wise since they have to travel so much to find tracks to race).

Look, before totally disregarding a rich racing history, why don't you all at least talk with IFMAR? http://www.ifmar.org/ . The BRCA is a member I'm assuming of EFRA? So that would already give you all a better chance. Who knows, they might be interested! Further, if you take the initiative with IFMAR, you might find the BRCA Uk MicroX rules to be the standard other ruling bodies follow.
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Firstly, the difference between a Nationals and a Worlds, imo, would be the emphasis on getting as many international drivers over as possible.

As I said, its something Ive looked into. No one else has seemingly looked into a Micro Scale Worlds so I thought it would be a decent challenge.

Im just bummed by it all at the moment really. I thought that when someone (me?) announced the idea everyone would jump for joy etc etc, but instead its jutst one negative post after another....not only here but other forums too and from other people too.
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first, I thing that the world of micro need to set up the RULE for all the micro class

minimal height, minimal weight, width......etc

then people should go out and race at local event, provincial event, national event and then world event.

we are not there yet

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c0sie,
Don't give up man.....You will find just like all the other main organizations have all hit the same bumps in the road but have dealt with the decisions and attitudes (good or bad) and have been around for years.....What everyone wants is for the world to see the Micro races and major events to mean something special just like the ROAR or IFMAR events do.....I go to a lot of 1/10 national events here in the states and when I start talking about the micro nationals all the pro drivers say about the same thing to me..."That's not really a National event because you guys don't have a sanctioning body"... With that they are right and so they don't see it worth anything because of that......But for us Micro Fans we all know that it dose mean something to us even if it doesn't have a Organization's stamp on it.....It still is the Micro Nationals to me because all the top micro drivers come to this race so you ARE racing the best of the best in Micro racing......

We almost had a sanctioning body a few years back if most guys remember. It was going to be called IMCA (International Micro Car Association) these guys almost had everything worked out but the Insurance policy I belive...so we were almost there..... I agree with everyone here talking about this....It will take time but not to long.....There definitely needs to be a world organization that will have rules set for world competitions....Oxynary has a good point about you getting with IFMAR since you already have a sanctioned body (BRCA) and we will soon have a USA body.....

I still would like to go back to the old days when you had club racing then you raced your region race to qualify for the nationals then from there you qualified for the Worlds.....Then you will have the best of the best and That would mean something to everyone and the World in Micro R/C......

Again don't give up in your endeavors if that is what you and your club wants to do....I will be there if that is where the Worlds is at but the key is if we want to be recognized and have the same respect then we must have a sanctioning body.......More to come......

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...from what you describe though, would not be a worlds. What separates it from a nationals other than putting "Worlds" in front? Hell, I could call our next race meeting over here the 1/18th Worlds.
Since when? And what seperates a glorfied club-level race from being a Nationals other than putting a Nats label in front and calling it one? Truth of the matter is that people put all sorts of labels in front of all sorts of races. Your point is moot.


Instead of all the negativity it'd seem to be much more productive to start putting people's heads together and start working on something before someone else does it. It's not like there are ANY national ruling bodies, other than local ones that make up their own rules (and DO change as they see fit from year to year), or international ones for that matter. Instead of all the posturing, your rules are different than ours so they're no good, be open-minded enough to know not everyone everywhere is going to do things the same way you (or anyone else) do it in your little corner of the country.

It'd be interesting to see a Mini/Miccro World Championship sometime in the near future, but unless people work together on the concept any of the rest of the posturing is just blowing smoke.

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First and foremost I think it's a great idea. Keep pushing it!

One would have to be carefull with the rules. Getting some people from US/Canada/anywhere you need to board a plane for example already has a huge cost. If the rules disqualifies all my current cars then going would bring greater expenses.

cOsie, would you happen to have the rules you had for your last events? Curious as to how they might differ.
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Found the rules - disregard.
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