Since when? And what seperates a glorfied club-level race from being a Nationals other than putting a Nats label in front and calling it one? Truth of the matter is that people put all sorts of labels in front of all sorts of races. Your point is moot.
Instead of all the negativity it'd seem to be much more productive to start putting people's heads together and start working on something before someone else does it. It's not like there are ANY national ruling bodies, other than local ones that make up their own rules (and DO change as they see fit from year to year), or international ones for that matter. Instead of all the posturing, your rules are different than ours so they're no good, be open-minded enough to know not everyone everywhere is going to do things the same way you (or anyone else) do it in your little corner of the country.
It'd be interesting to see a Mini/Miccro World Championship sometime in the near future, but unless people work together on the concept any of the rest of the posturing is just blowing smoke.
ummmm, I think you just chastised and agreed with him at the same time.
I, for one, think it's great that ya'll (crumpet and strumpet eating types) are pushing for such an event, while I also agree with Ox as to the idea that there needs to be a more "set" or at least governed rules handed down from somewhere. If time (and miles) permit, I'll attend.......no sponsors, no backing other than me and my lady....but I'll make every effort to be there....so long as there's some good Italian grub close by. I'm not big on drippings and toast and all that.
the main goals to achieve with this is to establish uniform rules and regulations for the construction and operations of micro racing......and also to promote international friendship and co-operation throughout the world through and for the operation of micro auto racing......
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c0sie,
when is the warm-up race and what kind of vehicles are you guys running over there?
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Getting slightly on a tangent here, but does circle one of the main ideas of a ruling body..
Micro, you know something we don't? Everytime I have tried to approach a ROAR rep about our class. It's never responded to. I mean, hell yea, it would be great to have our own national board instead of being caught up in the politics of ROAR. I know Madness is making some headway in this front, but it still seems premature at this point to call it nationally established. Maybe through RC Pro series would be an alternative?
The problem is the only ruling body (IFMAR) that has a variety of governing boards worldwide only recognizes ROAR here in North America which kinda screws us in that front. So unless a new IMCA type organization can be established worldwide, we will have to go through one of IFMARs national choices alone.
I always have questioned why a ruling body needs to even have to provide insurance. Why can't it simply be a method to establish racing norms? Let the tracks and clubs use their own insurances. At the most, provide links to insurance companies that would give discounts to tracks for being part of this ruling body.
Rules are nice, but there is a possibility of being too many rules.
Personally I'd like to see some basic rules, such as no intentionally smashing into another racer.
but for rules regarding motor, shocks, battery, body.. nah don't bother. These things are pretty cheap as it is and if people throw in an 8000kv brushless but end up using a quarter throttle, they'll probably go with a lower speed motor, like a 5400kv
also if a main is 5 minutes long, people will probably show up at the track with two 7.4v 1600mah lipos instead of one 11.1v 2000mah lipo
Let the track decide the motor speed and battery capacity, instead of a body
Sabin, in the end, the individual track does have say. Its when your dealing with larger events that having a ruling body does help and is not a hindrance.
Unless your saying you want to run with CRT.5 electric conversions in a 1/18th class? (Someone the other day was suggesting that exact thing at the track I race at until I made them realize that CRT is basically this size of a 1/10th buggy).
Sabin, in the end, the individual track does have say. Its when your dealing with larger events that having a ruling body does help and is not a hindrance.
Unless your saying you want to run with CRT.5 electric conversions in a 1/18th class? (Someone the other day was suggesting that exact thing at the track I race at until I made them realize that CRT is basically this size of a 1/10th buggy).
I would love to race against the crt.5,,,,, but only if the track is smooth
the main goals to achieve with this is to establish uniform rules and regulations for the construction and operations of micro racing......and also to promote international friendship and co-operation throughout the world through and for the operation of micro auto racing......
I agree....uniform rule for micro is what we need. I could understand that some local race could be a little bit different but when you go to a big race, a basic rule should apply.
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Personally I'd like to see some basic rules, such as no intentionally smashing into another racer.
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but for rules regarding motor, shocks, battery, body.. nah don't bother. These things are pretty cheap as it is and if people throw in an 8000kv brushless but end up using a quarter throttle, they'll probably go with a lower speed motor, like a 5400kv
do not agree. it is important to have specific class, specific rule.
ex: an xray M18 with 6 cell and an xray m18 with lipo, you will have around 25% difference in weight. so a minimal weight limit for is a MUST. 25% is a BIG difference!!!
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...which specifically cites wheelbase as well. No mention of onroad. From reading the forum I read that onroad had been attempted on their first two large events but was dropped due to lack of participation. They opted to drop it allowing for more offroad specific layout. I suspect this is understandable.
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