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Old 09-16-2009, 11:29 AM   #91
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i have been away for a while... is the NEU mtor still the top contender...
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:11 PM   #92
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i have been away for a while... is the NEU mtor still the top contender...
yes Jae. the NEU is still the big dog! And I still cant handle it!!! lol
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:22 PM   #93
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yes Jae. the NEU is still the big dog! And I still cant handle it!!! lol
holy crap..lol... oh man i thought if anyone could do it... it would be you..
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:19 AM   #94
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will the ammo motor have less cogging issues at low speed. I have the permax and it coggs bad at low speed and when brakes are applied the wheels lock up immediately. btw i have a quark esc if that matters. I am planning on getting the mamba 1/10 sidewinder esc soon. any help would be appriciated.
its been a while but just reporting that the sidewinder esc made a huge difference. very little cogging, if any, much smoother than the quark, easier to program, size is perfect for mounting on battery strap, brakes well. would recomend to anyone. only cogging happens when full throttle is applied from stand still, still minimal in this situation.
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Hello all i have a very simple question i am getting a detta and i want to run mycurrent BL system in there i have a mamba esc and a dynamite C4 9400kv motor yea i know the motor is overkill for racing hahaha i race on a mini offroad track med size decent jumps i have heard that the pitch on the detta spur gear is different than the pinion that the dynamite motor takes? Do i need to change the spur gear? and what gearing should i run so the motor does not get fried.
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MOTOR -370 size (Long can) TURNIGY 3750KV brushless motor
(THE HOLY GRAIL OF DETTA MOTOR....will put E-revo VXL owner to shame 50x)

Have been runing for 5 months on 2s1p lipo.
Setup:

ESC: Sidewinder Micro (normal tuned)
Lipo: Rhino 2s1P 25C 1750mah
Basic spur size (45T)

Pinion tested:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++
(*HEAT SINK FAN TURNED OFF)

-- 13T-16T (Motor too cold...motor being lazy) -40min runtime

-- 17T-19T (Tempreature 20-35 C degree Motor warm.. just woke up....Detta doing back flip 360.) -25min runtime

-- 20T-23T (OK heat is at 65 C degree.... That is fast enough your eyes) -20 min runtime... zoom at 105km.

Heat? what? ...never heard before?
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I love this motor to the max perfection, it have 4 holes infront vented, very long and powerfull magnet. Gold anodized in color. 2mm shaft.

I've stocked extra pieces of these motor because hardly find another TURNIGY motor in the market. I bought long can version instead of shorty normal ones. Bought from local LHS for only $40 dollars

You slap 1 one these on your detta is enough to make E-revo VXL 1/16 into the hall of shame because it raw power can make Detta do back flip, 2x 360 flip in the air, your tire ballon!! as it sprint and still can wheeling with only normal ESC setting and 2s1p lipo.


CAUTION. MUST INSTALL WHEELIE BAR WHEN YOU USE THIS MOTOR ELSE YOUR DETTA BACK WING HOLDER SHRED TO PIECES....IF YOU'RE UNLUCKY YOUR TIRE SHRED TO PIECES AS IT BALLONING ALL THE WAY on the track.
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i have an exxtra slash vxl system i am going to put in the detta, what gearing, and what brand of pinion would you reccomend using.

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i have an exxtra slash vxl system i am going to put in the detta, what gearing, and what brand of pinion would you reccomend using.

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If you use VXL 380 size motor then -

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Pinion: 15T-17T (LRP/ATOMIC)
Spur: 45T (Atomic)
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where do you get the atomic spur and pinion
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Old 10-26-2009, 05:44 PM   #100
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Got mine at http://www.rcmart.com Just look under ANDERSON MB4 parts.
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:55 PM   #101
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MOTOR -370 size (Long can) TURNIGY 3750KV brushless motor
(THE HOLY GRAIL OF DETTA MOTOR....will put E-revo VXL owner to shame 50x)

Have been runing for 5 months on 2s1p lipo.
Setup:

ESC: Sidewinder Micro (normal tuned)
Lipo: Rhino 2s1P 25C 1750mah
Basic spur size (45T)

Pinion tested:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++
(*HEAT SINK FAN TURNED OFF)

-- 13T-16T (Motor too cold...motor being lazy) -40min runtime

-- 17T-19T (Tempreature 20-35 C degree Motor warm.. just woke up....Detta doing back flip 360.) -25min runtime

-- 20T-23T (OK heat is at 65 C degree.... That is fast enough your eyes) -20 min runtime... zoom at 105km.

Heat? what? ...never heard before?
================================================== =====

I love this motor to the max perfection, it have 4 holes infront vented, very long and powerfull magnet. Gold anodized in color. 2mm shaft.

I've stocked extra pieces of these motor because hardly find another TURNIGY motor in the market. I bought long can version instead of shorty normal ones. Bought from local LHS for only $40 dollars

You slap 1 one these on your detta is enough to make E-revo VXL 1/16 into the hall of shame because it raw power can make Detta do back flip, 2x 360 flip in the air, your tire ballon!! as it sprint and still can wheeling with only normal ESC setting and 2s1p lipo.


CAUTION. MUST INSTALL WHEELIE BAR WHEN YOU USE THIS MOTOR ELSE YOUR DETTA BACK WING HOLDER SHRED TO PIECES....IF YOU'RE UNLUCKY YOUR TIRE SHRED TO PIECES AS IT BALLONING ALL THE WAY on the track.
Do you have any video of this? Your claims are insane!
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DO NOT get anything ATOMIC!
All you will need is a few RRP Metric pinions. If you are running an ST, get a 12t pinion. If you are running a buggy, get a 14-15t.

Anyone who says they are running a 370 and it will smoke a VXL is lying. Anyone who says they are running a 2mm pinion with a 45t spur is lying.
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Well i don't want to argue much here, with proven facts and specs i'm here to help our vendetta buddies looking for the right motor. I received a spare new box of Turnigy brushless motor last week. I took photo rather than yank out another motor from my chassis. Below are the pictures:

1. Turnigy motor


2. Trunigy 370 size vs stock Anderson/Duratrax brushed motor. Notice that Turnigy have longer cyclinders which means more magnet surface to produce torque power.


3. Behold! its 2mm. No lies. See it for yourself.


4. Here the bar code for the products to trace down the manufacturer (TURNIGY).


5. Large direct quad vents for extra cooling. Stays extremely cool. No doubt.


6. Yes even at the back also are fully vented. Air directly goes in to cool down the motor.


**Note that this motor are marketed for aircraft models usuall for ducted turbine motor which is why i never shows up in the land based model market.


Here the picture of my ride. After weeks of runing i prefer Detta for racing, E-revo good for bashing only.












Reasons i love detta because of this equation:- with only 1 pack of 2s1p and with the right brushless can produce powerfull torque/speed and longer runtime thus the size makes it easy to push the detta without extreme overheat problem. I want powerfull output to the wheels using only 1 pack of lipo and longer runtime without over heat plus stability. Thats why i love Detta, its an all rounder performance but ..yeah its fragile too. I also do love E-revo VXL but the problem is it got overheat in minutes on 2s1p and still cannot pull any wheelies unless on 4s1p. Which is why i seldom bring E-Revo out for action. I want something which i can spend long hours under the sun. Everyone here wants power so thats the fact. E-revo win the durability department. Traxxas didn't put the right brushless on E-revo. Since i own and you own it too i guess you knew that all along, you cant hide the fact from fiction. Why do i need 4s1p to pull wheelie and stunts on E-revo. I think its a waste of lipo resources and yet have short runtime. I'm waiting until i found a right motor to replace my current Revo motor.

Ok here's the building spec that you can follow to replicate my detta ST performance,
Built it and experience it the power. (I have tested with several esc, motor, pinion and spur..below are my optimal setup)
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ESC: Castle Creation Sidewinder micro brusless.
Motor: Brushless Turnigy 3790 (long can) as shown above.
Lipo: Rhino 1800mah 2s1p 24c
Pinion: 17T fit 2mm shaft (LRP 48 pitch)
Spur: 45T
Heatsink/fan: Yeah Racing Tornado.
Universals drive: Atomic Reinforced
Diff Outdrive/cup: Yeah racing alu
Tyre: ST stock tyres (get more grip to pull wheelies and speed)
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Ok here you go, now build it. The spec speak the truth....unless you don't own a detta.
You'll get a youtube soon, but i'm now travelling around with my company. Be back on r/c track for action again.

Here's my detta.




Guides: For more perfect gear binding, always break in your newly install pinion and gears by hold your detta with wheels suspended in the air/off the ground and run at 50%-60% throttle till 1 packs of lipo is finish to allow the teeth between pinion and spur to mesh perfectly as the plastics/alu rubs under no load until it binds perfectly without anymore friction issue. It works for me and my gears lasts longer.

"My quest for perfect system have ended....my next mission is getting and alu arms"
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where can i find that TURNIGY motor. I just bought a vendetta buggy
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Guides: For more perfect gear binding, always break in your newly install pinion and gears by hold your detta with wheels suspended in the air/off the ground and run at 50%-60% throttle till 1 packs of lipo is finish to allow the teeth between pinion and spur to mesh perfectly as the plastics/alu rubs under no load until it binds perfectly without anymore friction issue. It works for me and my gears lasts longer.

"My quest for perfect system have ended....my next mission is getting and alu arms"


Um, while I've never had an issue with pinion/spur gear break-in being neccessary on the detta or any other RC I've owned. The problem I see in your post is that brushless motors are not happy, nor is it advised, being run under no-load situations as you described.
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