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Old 03-27-2007, 02:35 PM   #316
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The track I am running on is a small indoor carpet track. It was designed for 1/18 scale cars. I don't know the exact dimmensions, but I would say it's about 30' x 40' in size with lanes about 4'-5' wide.

I just can not image turning my steering rate back up. I guess I could give it a try, but it was so uncontrollable I could not stand it. It does however make it tough to make sharp turns with it nearly all the way down!

Where do most of you have your steering rate set (especially those using the stock electronics)?
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Old 03-27-2007, 05:42 PM   #317
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thanks chicagokenji
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:13 PM   #318
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When guys say they are looking for more steering, it's not necessarily that they have the throw dialed all the way in. You actually don't want the tires plowing sideways thru the turns. They want to have enough front bite to turn the car and keep up the corner speed. This does not mean your car does circles of a 3 inch radius.
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what shore/color foams do you recommend on carpet? Are you using the same front and back?
I am using pink all around. My shock settings are quite stiff and have quite a bit less chassis roll than stock shocks. Pink or magenta should work well. My chassis set-up favors steering, so I run SAME compound all around. If I were on a large, high-bite, high speed track, I might run magenta up front.
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Old 03-28-2007, 08:15 AM   #320
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Robo,
Like Robk said! Car deffinately had a little push in stock form. Increasing steering rate doesn't help get more steering when driving the car harder.
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Do you have any pictures of what you did to install them?
I can't easily post pics from the store right now. Next time I take it apart, I'll try to remember to take a shot. It's pretty easy. There is a small ridge that the outdrive bearing goes up against (short outdrive). Remove the ridge.
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Old 03-28-2007, 08:38 AM   #322
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Thanks for clearing that up guys!

So... assuming my entire setup is stock, what is the one most noticable change I can make to keep the rear end of the car from sliding out in corners causing it to do 180s? It typically does this when I am heading fast into a corner and let off the throttle to try to coast around the corner a little more.

I would say more toe-in, but not really sure.

Thanks!
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I would say, look for something wrong with the car! They simply do not exhibit that tendency in stock trim.
Look for the usual suspects; bent hingepins, boundup suspension, broken rim, etc.
Does it loop in both directions? The following are set-up changes that will increase rear traction: Loosen screws that attach upper deck. Stiffer front spring and or softer rear spring. Heavier front oil and or lighter rear oil. Thicker/heavier front diff fluid (a small glop of 100k wt.)/lighter rear (10k). Increase rear toe-in. Change rear roll-center plates (shims between suspension holders/chassis and gearbox), move the shims to place them between the suspension mounts and gearbox (moves the hingepins to the lowest position).
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Yeah out of the box I've never noticed any of the Recoils at our track just spin out....on foam or rubber tires.

Something may be broken or bound up.
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Interesting observation:

Anyone who tries a Recoil and has raced on road before ends up loving this product.

Anything in RC car history happen like this before?
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Im having a heck of a time with traction rolling on carpet, on and off power at almost every corner once i start really setting down some good lap times. My Recoil has the following setup, Ive done the bearings for the steering, replaced the stock steering servo with a hitech HS 65, momba 8k bl Spectrum radio, added 80 wt oil to the shocks, added 10k oil to the rear diff (none to the front yet), 45 shore foam tires and the 10 degree c-hubs at the front and 2 degree toe to the rear.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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I'm seeing guys coating the outside edges of their Recoil foams with CA or clear nail polish, just for this reason. We run on Ozite.
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I'm seeing guys coating the outside edges of their Recoil foams with CA or clear nail polish, just for this reason. We run on Ozite.
As the backmarker...I mean Kenji said.

Try glueing the sidewalls of your foams with CA glue. Most 1/10 foam racers and now 1/14 scale foam racers do this
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Thank for the info, sounds easy enough i'll try that this weekend and post back.
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