1/18th Nationals - Xray M18T vs Asc. 18T - Which one?
01-01-2007, 12:17 PM
#1
1/18th Nationals - Xray M18T vs Asc. 18T - Which one?
I am trying to decide which one to run - (new to the 1/8th realm - avid racer though) the Asc. 18T or the M18T- what is your opinion?? and can the 18t run 1/10 foam tires like the M18T conversion can??
01-01-2007, 01:01 PM
#2
Both are great trucks so it is more or less what do you want/like.
As far as tires, 1/10 tires & rims are not allowed in ANY classes at the Nats. Most people use Duratrax street tread tires for the Mini Monster class for Club Races.
As far as tires, 1/10 tires & rims are not allowed in ANY classes at the Nats. Most people use Duratrax street tread tires for the Mini Monster class for Club Races.
01-01-2007, 01:22 PM
#3
Originally Posted by RCMadness
Both are great trucks so it is more or less what do you want/like.
As far as tires, 1/10 tires & rims are not allowed in ANY classes at the Nats. Most people use Duratrax street tread tires for the Mini Monster class for Club Races.
As far as tires, 1/10 tires & rims are not allowed in ANY classes at the Nats. Most people use Duratrax street tread tires for the Mini Monster class for Club Races.
thanks - what foam tires are being used at the nats? I am going to run 4wd brushless class! Thanks for the email on sponsorship (for RCscrewZ) we are sending banners, door prizes shirts and hats. also (2) team driver (including myself - owner) will be driving there -!!!
01-01-2007, 01:32 PM
#4
Awsome news on attending. Drop me a direct email with that info.
Most people use the AE foam tires, BRP Foam Tires, Losi Foam Tires or mount their own foam tires (x-ray).
Foams are allowed in 2wd Mod, 2wd Brushless, 4wd Mod & 4wd Brushless
Most people use the AE foam tires, BRP Foam Tires, Losi Foam Tires or mount their own foam tires (x-ray).
Foams are allowed in 2wd Mod, 2wd Brushless, 4wd Mod & 4wd Brushless
01-01-2007, 01:43 PM
#5
Originally Posted by RCMadness
Awsome news on attending. Drop me a direct email with that info.
Most people use the AE foam tires, BRP Foam Tires, Losi Foam Tires or mount their own foam tires (x-ray).
Foams are allowed in 2wd Mod, 2wd Brushless, 4wd Mod & 4wd Brushless
Most people use the AE foam tires, BRP Foam Tires, Losi Foam Tires or mount their own foam tires (x-ray).
Foams are allowed in 2wd Mod, 2wd Brushless, 4wd Mod & 4wd Brushless
I will email you in the morning about us helping sponsor this event - and again thanks for the info - are there rules that can be downloaded from anywhere?
01-01-2007, 02:25 PM
#6
Team Associated, R/C Driver & Castle Creations
Presents
2007 1/18 Indoor Off Road Nationals
April 13, 14 & 15
Only at R/C Madness in Enfield, CT
$35.00 for the first class (includes a race shirt)
$30.00 each additional class
Top ten in ALL “A” Mains receive awards
Top three in all other mains receive awards
Handout motors in specified classes provided by Reedy
Friday Open practice until 7:00 Club Race starts at 7:00
Saturday 2 rounds of IFMAR qualifying
Sunday one round of last chance IFMAR qualifying followed by mains
Don’t forget the “Super Main” following the “a” Mains where the best drivers & vehicles will compete together for the Manufactures Cup!
TQ awards sponsored by R/C Driver magazine
Best Paint competition on Sunday sponsored by www.radiocontrolentertainment.com
Xtreme Performance awards provided by Xtreme R/C Cars magazine
Class 1:
4wd Stock Class (Stadium Style)
Sponsored By Reedy
NO modifications to the factory stock chassis
1/18 Rubber Tires ONLY, No touring car tires, No Hex Adapters
Handout Reedy Mini Mod Motor ONLY
No disassembling or altering the motor
Open Electronics
5 or 6 Cells 2/3A Type Battery Packs ONLY (7.2 volts max)
Must use a stadium style truck body
Class 2:
4wd Modified Class (Stadium Style)
Sponsored By Team Associated
Open Chassis
Brushed Motors Up to, not exceeding, 300 in size, No Brushless Motors Allowed
Open 1/18 Tires including foams; No Touring Car Tires, No Hex Adapters
Open Electronics
Battery Voltage not to exceed 8.4 Volts
Must use a stadium style truck body
Class 3:
4wd Brushless/Unlimited Class (Stadium Style)
Sponsored By Quark Brushless
Open Chassis
Open Brushless Motor (only one motor)
Open 1/18 Tires including foams. No Touring Car Tires, No Hex Adapters
Open Electronics
Unlimited Battery Voltage
Must use a stadium style truck body
Class 4:
2wd Stock Class (Stadium Style/Baja)
Sponsored by Team Losi
NO modifications to the factory stock chassis
1/18 Rubber Tires ONLY, No touring car tires, No Hex Adapters
Handout Reedy Mini Mod Motor ONLY
No disassembling or altering the motor
Open Electronics
5 or 6 Cells 2/3A Type Battery Packs ONLY (7.2 volts max)
Must use a stadium style truck body or Baja Bug Body
Class 5:
2wd Modified Class (Stadium Style)
Sponsored by Team Scream
Open Chassis
Brushed Motors Up to, not exceeding, 300 in size, No Brushless Motors Allowed
Open 1/18 Tires including foams. No Touring Car Tires, No Hex Adapters
Open Electronics
Battery Voltage not to exceed 8.4 Volts
Must use a stadium style truck body or Baja Bug Body
Class 6:
2wd Brushless/Unlimited Class (Stadium Style)
Sponsored By Team Tekin
Open Chassis
Open Brushless Motor
Open 1/18 Tires including foams; No Touring Car Tires, No Hex Adapters
Open Electronics
Unlimited Battery Voltage
Must use a stadium style truck body or Baja Bug Body
Class 7:
Mini Monster Open
Sponsored by Duratrax
Open Chassis
Open Motor(s) not to exceed 2. Brushed or Brushless
No Foam Tire or touring car tires, 1/18th Monster Truck Tires ONLY
Tires must be AT LEAST 2 ½” tall when mounted on rims
Open Electronics
Unlimited Battery Voltage
Must use a Mini Monster type truck body or Stadium Truck Body
Class 8:
Novice Class
Sponsored by SMC
12-Years-Old or Younger ONLY (no 'ringers')
Must Run Stock Factory Chassis
NO modifications to the stock chassis
1/18 Rubber Tires ONLY, No Touring Car Tires
Factory Stock Speed Control ONLY
No disassembling or altering the motor
5 or 6 Cells Pre-Built 2/3A Type Battery Packs ONLY. (7.2 volts)
Class 9:
1/18 Buggy Open
Sponsored by ApogeePacks.com
Open Chassis
Open Motor
1/18 Rubber Buggy Tires. No Touring Car Sized Tires or Foam Tires or Hex Adapters
Must run narrow front tires, (similar to the RC18B or Duratrax Vendetta)
Front tires must be less than 1” wide when mounted on rims
No truck front tires/rims. (No wide front tires/rims)
Open Electronics
Open battery voltage
Must run a buggy body with wing
Class 10:
1/18 Buggy Stock/Spec (RC18B, Vendetta ONLY!)
Sponsored by Duratrax
Must Run Stock Factory Chassis.
NO modifications to the factory stock chassis
Factory Tires & Rims ONLY. NO Aftermarket Tires or Rims
Must use factory motor. (The motor that came with the car)
No disassembling or altering the motor in any way
Must use factory speed control & servo.
The ONLY allowable upgrades are as follows: adjustable turnbuckles,
motor heat sink, and aluminum steering knuckles on the Vendetta.
May use different battery connectors.
NO OTHER CHANGES ALLOWED
5 or 6 Cells 2/3A Type Battery Packs ONLY (7.2 volts max)
Must use stock buggy body and wing. May be custom painted
Class 11:
18R Onroad Class (RC18R ONLY)
Sponsored by Team Associated
Must Run Stock Factory Chassis.
NO modifications to the factory stock chassis
Factory Tires & Rims ONLY. NO Aftermarket Tires or Rims
Hand-out Reedy Mod Motor
No disassembling or altering the motor
The ONLY allowable upgrades are as follows:
adjustable turnbuckles, motor heat sink,
Must use factory speed control & servo.
5 or 6 Cells 2/3A Type Battery Packs ONLY (7.2 volts max)
Must use stock AE Citroen, Kamino, Mitusbishi or other 18R bodies made by AE.
Bodies may be custom painted
Misc……
These rules were made to accommodate the majority of hobby shop grade 1/18 vehicles on the market as of 12-1-06. They include the RC18 series, Mini T, M18T, M18MT Mini LST, Baja Bug, Mini Quake, Vendetta, MiniZilla, Mini Giant, Spyder, Blade, Thunder Tiger ZT2, Thunder Tiger ZK2, LRP Shark Truck or equivalent. The Mini Inferno ST is allowed to run in the Mini Monster class
• Aftermarket chassis is allowed in all classes but it may not make the vehicle wider or longer than intended by the manufacturer (except for classes 8, 10 and 11)
• Aftermarket A-Arms are allowed in all classes but they may not make the vehicle wider than intended by the manufacturer (except for classes 10 and 11)
• No Sub C sized cells in ANY class
• No 540 Sized motors in any class
Presents
2007 1/18 Indoor Off Road Nationals
April 13, 14 & 15
Only at R/C Madness in Enfield, CT
$35.00 for the first class (includes a race shirt)
$30.00 each additional class
Top ten in ALL “A” Mains receive awards
Top three in all other mains receive awards
Handout motors in specified classes provided by Reedy
Friday Open practice until 7:00 Club Race starts at 7:00
Saturday 2 rounds of IFMAR qualifying
Sunday one round of last chance IFMAR qualifying followed by mains
Don’t forget the “Super Main” following the “a” Mains where the best drivers & vehicles will compete together for the Manufactures Cup!
TQ awards sponsored by R/C Driver magazine
Best Paint competition on Sunday sponsored by www.radiocontrolentertainment.com
Xtreme Performance awards provided by Xtreme R/C Cars magazine
Class 1:
4wd Stock Class (Stadium Style)
Sponsored By Reedy
NO modifications to the factory stock chassis
1/18 Rubber Tires ONLY, No touring car tires, No Hex Adapters
Handout Reedy Mini Mod Motor ONLY
No disassembling or altering the motor
Open Electronics
5 or 6 Cells 2/3A Type Battery Packs ONLY (7.2 volts max)
Must use a stadium style truck body
Class 2:
4wd Modified Class (Stadium Style)
Sponsored By Team Associated
Open Chassis
Brushed Motors Up to, not exceeding, 300 in size, No Brushless Motors Allowed
Open 1/18 Tires including foams; No Touring Car Tires, No Hex Adapters
Open Electronics
Battery Voltage not to exceed 8.4 Volts
Must use a stadium style truck body
Class 3:
4wd Brushless/Unlimited Class (Stadium Style)
Sponsored By Quark Brushless
Open Chassis
Open Brushless Motor (only one motor)
Open 1/18 Tires including foams. No Touring Car Tires, No Hex Adapters
Open Electronics
Unlimited Battery Voltage
Must use a stadium style truck body
Class 4:
2wd Stock Class (Stadium Style/Baja)
Sponsored by Team Losi
NO modifications to the factory stock chassis
1/18 Rubber Tires ONLY, No touring car tires, No Hex Adapters
Handout Reedy Mini Mod Motor ONLY
No disassembling or altering the motor
Open Electronics
5 or 6 Cells 2/3A Type Battery Packs ONLY (7.2 volts max)
Must use a stadium style truck body or Baja Bug Body
Class 5:
2wd Modified Class (Stadium Style)
Sponsored by Team Scream
Open Chassis
Brushed Motors Up to, not exceeding, 300 in size, No Brushless Motors Allowed
Open 1/18 Tires including foams. No Touring Car Tires, No Hex Adapters
Open Electronics
Battery Voltage not to exceed 8.4 Volts
Must use a stadium style truck body or Baja Bug Body
Class 6:
2wd Brushless/Unlimited Class (Stadium Style)
Sponsored By Team Tekin
Open Chassis
Open Brushless Motor
Open 1/18 Tires including foams; No Touring Car Tires, No Hex Adapters
Open Electronics
Unlimited Battery Voltage
Must use a stadium style truck body or Baja Bug Body
Class 7:
Mini Monster Open
Sponsored by Duratrax
Open Chassis
Open Motor(s) not to exceed 2. Brushed or Brushless
No Foam Tire or touring car tires, 1/18th Monster Truck Tires ONLY
Tires must be AT LEAST 2 ½” tall when mounted on rims
Open Electronics
Unlimited Battery Voltage
Must use a Mini Monster type truck body or Stadium Truck Body
Class 8:
Novice Class
Sponsored by SMC
12-Years-Old or Younger ONLY (no 'ringers')
Must Run Stock Factory Chassis
NO modifications to the stock chassis
1/18 Rubber Tires ONLY, No Touring Car Tires
Factory Stock Speed Control ONLY
No disassembling or altering the motor
5 or 6 Cells Pre-Built 2/3A Type Battery Packs ONLY. (7.2 volts)
Class 9:
1/18 Buggy Open
Sponsored by ApogeePacks.com
Open Chassis
Open Motor
1/18 Rubber Buggy Tires. No Touring Car Sized Tires or Foam Tires or Hex Adapters
Must run narrow front tires, (similar to the RC18B or Duratrax Vendetta)
Front tires must be less than 1” wide when mounted on rims
No truck front tires/rims. (No wide front tires/rims)
Open Electronics
Open battery voltage
Must run a buggy body with wing
Class 10:
1/18 Buggy Stock/Spec (RC18B, Vendetta ONLY!)
Sponsored by Duratrax
Must Run Stock Factory Chassis.
NO modifications to the factory stock chassis
Factory Tires & Rims ONLY. NO Aftermarket Tires or Rims
Must use factory motor. (The motor that came with the car)
No disassembling or altering the motor in any way
Must use factory speed control & servo.
The ONLY allowable upgrades are as follows: adjustable turnbuckles,
motor heat sink, and aluminum steering knuckles on the Vendetta.
May use different battery connectors.
NO OTHER CHANGES ALLOWED
5 or 6 Cells 2/3A Type Battery Packs ONLY (7.2 volts max)
Must use stock buggy body and wing. May be custom painted
Class 11:
18R Onroad Class (RC18R ONLY)
Sponsored by Team Associated
Must Run Stock Factory Chassis.
NO modifications to the factory stock chassis
Factory Tires & Rims ONLY. NO Aftermarket Tires or Rims
Hand-out Reedy Mod Motor
No disassembling or altering the motor
The ONLY allowable upgrades are as follows:
adjustable turnbuckles, motor heat sink,
Must use factory speed control & servo.
5 or 6 Cells 2/3A Type Battery Packs ONLY (7.2 volts max)
Must use stock AE Citroen, Kamino, Mitusbishi or other 18R bodies made by AE.
Bodies may be custom painted
Misc……
These rules were made to accommodate the majority of hobby shop grade 1/18 vehicles on the market as of 12-1-06. They include the RC18 series, Mini T, M18T, M18MT Mini LST, Baja Bug, Mini Quake, Vendetta, MiniZilla, Mini Giant, Spyder, Blade, Thunder Tiger ZT2, Thunder Tiger ZK2, LRP Shark Truck or equivalent. The Mini Inferno ST is allowed to run in the Mini Monster class
• Aftermarket chassis is allowed in all classes but it may not make the vehicle wider or longer than intended by the manufacturer (except for classes 8, 10 and 11)
• Aftermarket A-Arms are allowed in all classes but they may not make the vehicle wider than intended by the manufacturer (except for classes 10 and 11)
• No Sub C sized cells in ANY class
• No 540 Sized motors in any class
01-01-2007, 07:35 PM
#7
On the M18T. If you are a racer already, you will appreciate the precision feel the truck gives with its bellcrank steering, and stiff suspension components. Basically, it goes where you put it. If you do plan on running the brushless class, I would recommend upgrading to the Xray aluminum universals for it. The stock composite ones are meant for 370 size engines, and not designed for the rigors of carpet brushless.
Also, for foam tire and other hints and tricks, see this thread here.
Also, for foam tire and other hints and tricks, see this thread here.
01-01-2007, 08:01 PM
#8
Originally Posted by Mini_Me
On the M18T. If you are a racer already, you will appreciate the precision feel the truck gives with its bellcrank steering, and stiff suspension components. Basically, it goes where you put it. If you do plan on running the brushless class, I would recommend upgrading to the Xray aluminum universals for it. The stock composite ones are meant for 370 size engines, and not designed for the rigors of carpet brushless.
Also, for foam tire and other hints and tricks, see this thread here.
Also, for foam tire and other hints and tricks, see this thread here.
Doesn't any make 1/18th foams for the xray - or can tires be modified by associated or losi to work?
01-01-2007, 08:07 PM
#9
Ugh! Im sorry. I linked to the wrong thread. 
Here is the right one.
If you look above, there are directions on how to create foams using the stock rims.
Here is the right one.
If you look above, there are directions on how to create foams using the stock rims.
01-01-2007, 08:20 PM
#10
Originally Posted by Mini_Me
Ugh! Im sorry. I linked to the wrong thread.
Here is the right one.
If you look above, there are directions on how to create foams using the stock rims.
Here is the right one.
If you look above, there are directions on how to create foams using the stock rims.
01-01-2007, 08:44 PM
#11
Im not sure, I would assume any that can true a 1/12th size and have a 4mm shaft size. Why not list which you have in that thread to see if its compatible. Most should be though.
01-01-2007, 08:46 PM
#12
Originally Posted by rcscrewz
Doesn't any make 1/18th foams for the xray - or can tires be modified by associated or losi to work?
The rc18 uses pin mounts and you can get premade foams from a few companies AE, BRP, Parma, Losi
The M18 uses its own mounting thus making ready made foams almost non existent.
the really fast guys up at madness use CRC 1/12 F donuts. You can get them in many durometers.....and gluing them and truing them is an art in itself........
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