Size or scale has little to do with price. It's all about man hours, tooling costs. No reason why one should expect this car to be much cheaper than a 1/12 car of compairable design.
Back to the car.....
It should be in hand in a few days.. Then it will be time for the acid test!
Actually they do.. Man Axial is sure screwing hobby shops buying directly from them. Yes, great planes/hobbico has more buying power, but thats such a price difference to be a slap in the face to a local hobby shop. I can almost believe that the hobby shop is paying around at least $150 for the kit from axial alone.
If I were a local shop, I would cancel my contract with axial and just go through great planes. Even though GP screws the local dealer as they sell their merchandise to dealers about the same cost as the go around and do to end customers on the Tower portions. Meaning that a hobby shop will still have a higher price.
One of the reasons I always grimace at people buying directly from Tower. All your doing is screwing your local shop! At least Horizon makes their pricing for end consumers above what a hobby shop pays. So you end up paying the same amount buying from Horizon or you LHS.
Im saying in order for tower to sell that, they must be getting a much lower price than the hobby shops.
And how? Bulk ordering.
So Im saying if your hobby shop does get pissed off and wont order directly through axial, you oder through your hobbyshop to greatplanes versus going to Tower directly and screwing everyone over except Hobbico/Greatplanes profit at the expense of long term survivability of local shops being under cut by the hand that feeds it.
hmm never knew that.....id have to double check the Great Planes prices versus the Axial prices cause I work at my local hobby shop lol....I wonder who have a cheaper price......anyways no matter the price of the Scalpel ....IM GETTIN ONE!
Just so guys know Stormerhobbies.com has the car and seemingly most of the spares as on order....Seems it should be there soon.
Being as I race 12th scale pan car, I have three concerns about the car and the handling of it.
1) The ball diff, and how dependable it is, even 12th scale diffs can be a real handfull.
2) The center shock, looks friction not oilfilled, if it is oilfilled it looks to have very little repounce.
and 3) The servo riding up front, not sure that it will really work having that much weight over the front axels. Seems it will make the car a bit front biased.
I think I will wait to see one up close.....
My last encounter with a 18th scale cost too much and took a long time to get dialed.
Cost is all relative, it is what someone is will to pay for an item. But if the car costs $170 like Axiam is advertises, $140 for a mamba system, $80 for a receiver, and $45 for a half decent servo. This thing better be a fantastic performer out the box for a total of $435+tax add the cost of spares and a half desent supply of foam tires. I could easily see the $500 mark just to get it as competative most racers would want it. Thats pushing some serious coin for a micro car.
Just my 2 pennies,
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Just so guys know Stormerhobbies.com has the car and seemingly most of the spares as on order....Seems it should be there soon.
Being as I race 12th scale pan car, I have three concerns about the car and the handling of it.
1) The ball diff, and how dependable it is, even 12th scale diffs can be a real handfull.
2) The center shock, looks friction not oilfilled, if it is oilfilled it looks to have very little repounce.
and 3) The servo riding up front, not sure that it will really work having that much weight over the front axels. Seems it will make the car a bit front biased.
I think I will wait to see one up close.....
My last encounter with a 18th scale cost too much and took a long time to get dialed.
Cost is all relative, it is what someone is will to pay for an item. But if the car costs $170 like Axiam is advertises, $140 for a mamba system, $80 for a receiver, and $45 for a half decent servo. This thing better be a fantastic performer out the box for a total of $435+tax add the cost of spares and a half desent supply of foam tires. I could easily see the $500 mark just to get it as competative most racers would want it. Thats pushing some serious coin for a micro car.
Just my 2 pennies,
1. Cant argue with that I used the AE stealth diff back in the day (it allowed tire change without taking the diff nut off.) I went through thrust bearings about once a month. Relubed my diff after every race night. But isnt that the way these pan cars work? I mean its part of the equation. Just because its smaller doesnt mean its simpler/easier.
2. You may very well be correct. However the close up pictures of it show it may have good enough tolerances to be a grease filled one.
3. As you say, you'll have to test drive it. I think you can get away with even a smaller servo then they show. Doesn't the BRP use a full size in the same area? (Of course they make up for it by having a rear mounted motor)
Compared to $250 for a newer 1/12th. $60 for a decent servo. $230 for a Novak combo. $60 for a receiver (are you using spectrum as to your price being so high)?
Your at $600 and still haven't added the costs of batteries and spares to yours cost as well.
Im sure no one can chime in until they get the kit, But the one that looks like they are using in the press release seems around a 81S size at least comparing it to the cells. Which means you could drop down even further with a little ingenuity, and get center point steering.
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They should get to me by friday. I will be putting one together right away.
I put center-point steering on my BRP. Should be just as easy on this.
Doubt that my m18 will get much track time in the future .
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