micrors4guy, Stick with your hoopty pile mrs4.
This car is a PRO-LEVEL 1/18 pan car. First time a manufacturer has produced a true racers machine! Price is in line for what it is.
They are expected to be in next week. I just talked the my supplier & they are right down the street from Axial/Robotronics.
18th scale for the most part (not all so if you're offended by this I'm probably not talking about you) is all about bashers.
I think you meant to insert cheap RTR up in there. Its no wonder other classes cant take us seriously with people assuming that if its smaller, its just cheap, for bashing. Would you call a MiniZ a basher focused car?
This is ridiculous. 100?? I mean have you looked at prices for graphite chassis alone for even a 1/18th scale? This isn't rtr. It comes with the motor and esc (battery?) though from what I understand? You see the aluminum bulkheads? Those aren't cheap to machine!
Look, this might put it in perspective for you. This is a racing vehicle. This isn't meant for bashers, and I would have assumed that the quality of the materials would have made it apparent.
I mean cmon guys, I understand if you come from a bashing background you might not understand the pricing going on here. But this is not for you, and it never was. BRP would be your vehicle of choice.
$100??? Wow pretty rediculous expectations.
A competion 1/12 is $200 +. Only diference here is a little less material. Most of the cost is in machining & labor. No reason to think this car should cost much less than a good 1/12 car.
The real savings will be in the electronics.
The price thai3g quoted, sounds about right. That is about what I will be selling them for.
This is ridiculous. 100?? I mean have you looked at prices for graphite chassis alone for even a 1/18th scale? This isn't rtr. It comes with the motor and esc (battery?) though from what I understand? You see the aluminum bulkheads? Those aren't cheap to machine!
Look, this might put it in perspective for you. This is a racing vehicle. This isn't meant for bashers, and I would have assumed that the quality of the materials would have made it apparent.
I mean cmon guys, I understand if you come from a bashing background you might not understand the pricing going on here. But this is not for you, and it never was. BRP would be your vehicle of choice.
Am talking in a calm voice so don't take my Tex out of context, please. Let me put it in perspective for you. No one company makes any thing for you specially. They don't make them to have fun, they don't make em to make your life better. Its all made to make someone money bottom line, that's all. No one said you had to agree with it. You have the right to give your opinion also, but that all it is. I have been racing over 20 years, but in reality it doesn't mater how long you been racing or how old you are to give your opinion.
The cost of graphite has come way down over the last couple of years. Machining is quite cheep in bulk as well. Its all about marketing witch includes pricing the two work together no mater what your selling. I thinking 1/18 th is the next big thing and would hate to see the manufactures mess it up. 18th scale racing is about affordability. Me personally, I would rather have 100 plus racers then the normal 30 to race with.
This RACE car is right in line with the cost of what it is. As has already been shown pan cars, similarly equipped to this go for anywhere between $200 and $300. That's what the market can bear. This isn't a basher car, it's a race car.
I for one am REALLY looking forward to getting my hands on one. As a 12th scale carpet guy, this will run really nice on our local track. Cheaper batteries, brushless motor, this thing will be fun!
Actually, if you look at the price of a carbon fiber equipped M18 it's pretty close in price.
Really, if you don't like the price...don't buy one. It's obnoxious to sit here and piss and moan about it being too expensive.
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Cmon man. Why is it everytime I correct someone for stating something obviously misinformed they go about how it their right to give an opinion. I know this. Its also by the same token my right to correct it!
How about we stop and focus on the car for those that want to own it and understand the price point? Its obvious your expectations are slightly askew with reality. As it is, I have never seen a mid motor rwd pan car drift if that was your intention.
I might mention, yes bulk does make a difference. We aren't talking about a huge bulk as I thought would be self apparent.
And no. I work with some RC Manufacturers. There are easier ways to make money than making RC components/vehicles. Money/Profit is part of the equation, but it isn't as if they are all trying to personally gouge you (well maybe Provetti). They have a right to make a decent living as well. It is a passion for some to be in this business.
Cmon man. Why is it everytime I correct someone for stating something obviously misinformed they go about how it their right to give an opinion. I know this. Its also by the same token my right to correct it!
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[quote=dr_hfuhuhurr]This RACE car is right in line with the cost of what it is. As has already been shown pan cars, similarly equipped to this go for anywhere between $200 and $300. That's what the market can bear. This isn't a basher car, it's a race car. [quote]
This is a 18th car. What does the AE 18th cost? What does the Mini T cost? A pan car cost 1/2 the price of the same scale off road or 4 wd. Its know where close as far as pricing goes on the same scale. This is great looking car and I'm not trying to take anything from it.
the cost of the car is not too extreme. Remember guys it comes with no electronics.....only a motor.....you need to supply esc, servo and rx.
My only fear is a shortage of spare parts...tires/wheels etc....My next concern is the quality of the ball diff.....otherwise the car has great potential. BTW a Robitronics ESC retails for $250......I know there electrics are top notch lets hope the Scalpel lives up to there reputation.
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