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  1. 30Tooth
    08-12-2017 02:14 PM - permalink
    30Tooth
    Hey, one thing I forgot to add. Very important in your case with the gamechanger pistons, the one with most pack should be at the front. So for example medium pack front and low pack on the rear. About shock angle, depending on geometry it makes the wheel rate be progressive (negative or positive) more or less, a 90 degree shock angle in relation to the arm when bottomed out means the car will get stiffer until it bottoms out, as that makes more sense than having a less progressive shock and then trying to control roll with other things. Remember the roll motion is a necessary evil, should be kept in check at all times.
  2. geforce
    08-12-2017 01:43 PM - permalink
    geforce
    hey mate also wanted to ask you about the shock mounting locations on the thread you say to place the shock at 90 deg to arm when bottomed out what does this achieve as I have read in some setup guides that having the shock too vertical can make the car have grip upto a certain point then lose grip abruptly is this true? and btw thankyou for your input
  3. 30Tooth
    08-11-2017 10:00 AM - permalink
    30Tooth
    Don't forget my setup calls for smaller piston holes up front. Critical to achieving more balanced dampening front and rear. Other than that follow the recommendation from the piston manufacturer.
  4. geforce
    08-11-2017 12:11 AM - permalink
    geforce
    another thing is I installed the emulsion shock caps and they recommend using 100 -150 cst more when using those I ordered some 500 and 550 to go in front shocks as here it is still cold winter tho warms up a tad thru the day and also I have 1.3 hole 8 hole gamechanger pistons front and rear
  5. 30Tooth
    08-10-2017 05:26 PM - permalink
    30Tooth
    Hey Geforce, thanks for the compliment got a lot of good feedback from that setup. Can be anything you want, just a starting point as you are likely to go around 500 now with higher temperatures. During Euros Kyosho drivers ran around 500cst Kyosho oils, Kyosho oils are one of the most consistent out there if you tune a lot using oil then it's a good move to use their oils, if not then stay with whatever brand you have
  6. geforce
    08-10-2017 04:32 PM - permalink
    geforce
    hey mate love your setup with the orange rear springs and hubs farward just wondering about the shock oils you have 400 front and rear is that cst kyosho oil?
  7. 30Tooth
    06-29-2017 02:31 PM - permalink
    30Tooth
    My intent with the H inner bushings is to lower the car and then use the L position on the hub to have the arm level with ground. That is important as the car will roll less and more naturally, on a downward fashion, instead of raising and then falling over. A lower car will always be faster and/or more consistent.
    That way you just raise the upper arm mounting point on the shock tower to have roll centre height back towards the ground (as it is a good place to be) and then you have CG close to it to keep roll to a minimum, so it doesn't interfere with mechanical grip. All together and you can run less toe because the rear grip is increased and less Ackerman too leading to more gains in corner speed. Feedback has been great I recommend 100% trying it.

    You're welcome,

    R
  8. Winner's Circle
    06-29-2017 01:45 PM - permalink
    Winner's Circle
    I have been following your set-up info and the discussions it has created. I have a question about running the HIGH roll center in the rear and the LOWER position on the rear hub - I have tried most of what you recommend but not these 2 things. I am currently running the LOW roll center and HIGH position on the hub with 3 degrees of toe in.

    What should I experience by going to your rear set-up? I don't mind trying it but there is so little practice time at our track that practice time is precious.

    Thanks,

    Lee Muse

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