Beginners why spend so much?????
05-21-2003, 02:20 AM
#46
Originally posted by InitialD
Unfortunately, all my engines are rojak engines because I'm constantly experimenting. So you can say that I have a "race" engine. Just one that I put up specially which I think will give the best reliability and power
Yes, Jaco tires have this thing that it splits after a while. It has got something to do with the glue that they use to glue the multi rings / different compound tires onto the rims. But then they mentioned that it was still alright to use them and I find that to be true. Still works
What shore are you using? I find that the 40 shore ones are reliable. The 35 shore ones chunk quite easily at the side but still not as bad as UFRA and Ellegi or the other GRP tire brands. Those are my findings. But then again, I may be wrong. When I started out foams, my handling was still bad. At that time, I only used Ellegi and UFRA foams tires. Probably that constitutes to the bad statistic I have with those brands
But all in all, Jaco grips better and wears longer than the UFRA or the Ellegis.
Unfortunately, all my engines are rojak engines because I'm constantly experimenting. So you can say that I have a "race" engine. Just one that I put up specially which I think will give the best reliability and power
Yes, Jaco tires have this thing that it splits after a while. It has got something to do with the glue that they use to glue the multi rings / different compound tires onto the rims. But then they mentioned that it was still alright to use them and I find that to be true. Still works
What shore are you using? I find that the 40 shore ones are reliable. The 35 shore ones chunk quite easily at the side but still not as bad as UFRA and Ellegi or the other GRP tire brands. Those are my findings. But then again, I may be wrong. When I started out foams, my handling was still bad. At that time, I only used Ellegi and UFRA foams tires. Probably that constitutes to the bad statistic I have with those brands
But all in all, Jaco grips better and wears longer than the UFRA or the Ellegis.
05-21-2003, 02:36 AM
#47
I've also heard the rumour that in HRS mode, you will not have the fail safe feature. That's one of the wrong rumours I'm referring to. In HRS mode, you still have fail safe feature in the 3PK. The reason why HRS is in FM mode is because it is faster than PCM mode.
Not all shops have tire truers. I know the benefits of truing your tires down to a certain size. However I don't see how different it is when you use a new foam tire that is properly trued to say 63 mm than from the foams tires that you use it down to 63 mm.
Same difference.
Not all shops have tire truers. I know the benefits of truing your tires down to a certain size. However I don't see how different it is when you use a new foam tire that is properly trued to say 63 mm than from the foams tires that you use it down to 63 mm.
Same difference.
05-21-2003, 02:47 AM
#48
Originally posted by spawn
Me using shore 40 too. Quite long lasting but chunks like hell. Maybe my camber is insufficient. Now at 2.5 for the rear. Handling improve tremedously after I rebuilt the shocks. Also front tires seems to outlast two sets of foams. Still at 63mm while the rears wore to 60mm. Must go buy more rear foams but money is running out!!! Titiwangsa is really fun when the track is dry but my handling still suck esp. at the far end. I cant really see the track. Looking at the missing rails I think it was probably taken out by some really fast car!. Have yet to see the 1/8 in action but saw a 950, really beautiful. Wish I had the cash to own one.
Me using shore 40 too. Quite long lasting but chunks like hell. Maybe my camber is insufficient. Now at 2.5 for the rear. Handling improve tremedously after I rebuilt the shocks. Also front tires seems to outlast two sets of foams. Still at 63mm while the rears wore to 60mm. Must go buy more rear foams but money is running out!!! Titiwangsa is really fun when the track is dry but my handling still suck esp. at the far end. I cant really see the track. Looking at the missing rails I think it was probably taken out by some really fast car!. Have yet to see the 1/8 in action but saw a 950, really beautiful. Wish I had the cash to own one.
Titiwangsa track is very notoriuos for chunking tires. Especially the far end section where you described that you had difficulties. The edge before coming into the longest straight has very sharp edges, thanks to the 1/8th scale. They put cement some time back to mend the sharp edges but that didn't stop the 1/8th scale from hitting it. If your car goes very close to that edge, chances that you scrub the side of the foam tires withth e sharp edges is high and ultimately you chunk your tires
To negotiate that corner, you need to go with the force... You need to feel the force flowing through you and let the force take control 2.5 for the rear camber of a NTC3 is not large enough (I think). You probably need 3 to 3.5. Are your tires coning (outside diameter smaller than inside diameter)?
05-21-2003, 03:00 AM
#49
Tech Regular
my camber is 2.5 front 3.5 rear but my tires still coning. should i increase to 4.5 ? i oso hear in titiwangsa one side (4got which) side should be more by 1 maybe attributed to the corners ?
05-21-2003, 08:05 AM
#50
Funny thing about NTC3 is that at 2.5 rear I get conning on the inside. I tried 2 and it is better. For the front I use 2 and it is perfectly straight. May be the shock oil and piston I am using. 50wt ft and 40wt rr. Learnt that after the Shah Alam race coz after running 5min 4X, the coning is very obvious.
Pokemon, for your car, you need to change the position of your upper link. I told you that the inside must always be higher than outside otherwide you get ice-cream cone tires. Move the inner link to a lower position since your shock tower have many lubang while the outer link to a higher position so that when you take the turn, you wheel will angle up to the road. For the perfect position, well you have to try it out.
Anyone for Titiwangsa this Saturday morning?
Pokemon, for your car, you need to change the position of your upper link. I told you that the inside must always be higher than outside otherwide you get ice-cream cone tires. Move the inner link to a lower position since your shock tower have many lubang while the outer link to a higher position so that when you take the turn, you wheel will angle up to the road. For the perfect position, well you have to try it out.
Anyone for Titiwangsa this Saturday morning?
05-21-2003, 08:47 AM
#51
Tech Adept
HRS receiver only has signal fail safe. While PCM1024 receiver has both signal & battery fail safe
According to NTC3 form tyres setup in last page of the manual, front camber -2 and rear -3 degree respectively. Beside that you also need to increase rear drop to -4. I had tried it and my tyres didn't have conning problem.
According to NTC3 form tyres setup in last page of the manual, front camber -2 and rear -3 degree respectively. Beside that you also need to increase rear drop to -4. I had tried it and my tyres didn't have conning problem.
05-21-2003, 10:21 AM
#53
Tech Rookie
the reason why some players set at -3 deg and still cone more than those who set at -2 deg is due to the shocks setting. Try hardening the spring. Or the easier way, put more negative until the coning stops
05-21-2003, 11:05 AM
#54
Hi there guys, I'm new here at this forum and back into RC once again after a long lapse.
Danny, How are you doing buddy? This is Andy Dass.
I agree with your views on beginners spending too much. Take it easy, the hobby is not going anywhere, right? Financial burnout is something to consider.
Especially now with the use of modified engines and foams in 1/10 nitro Touring. Sometimes its really not necessary to use high powered engines; for example on smaller tracks but it sure is nice to have one though.
The way I spend is to think of it this way....Do you want it? or Do you need it?
I know it's a lot of fun to option up but be careful of the spending bug! because once it bites it's kinda tough to shake it off.
Take it easy, Andy
Danny, How are you doing buddy? This is Andy Dass.
I agree with your views on beginners spending too much. Take it easy, the hobby is not going anywhere, right? Financial burnout is something to consider.
Especially now with the use of modified engines and foams in 1/10 nitro Touring. Sometimes its really not necessary to use high powered engines; for example on smaller tracks but it sure is nice to have one though.
The way I spend is to think of it this way....Do you want it? or Do you need it?
I know it's a lot of fun to option up but be careful of the spending bug! because once it bites it's kinda tough to shake it off.
Take it easy, Andy
05-21-2003, 12:43 PM
#55
well, to my extend, we certainly would like to classify our very own "malaysian" top 10.... however, there ain't a top class race to verify these claims......
well, if we were to credit the guyz from local / international races, sometimes it ain't fair as different organisers (local) has different ways of running a race while not many could afford to attend an international event!
so any1 willing to plan a local "international" class race just like de one in 2001??? which was organised by hobby heaven, subang, ISTC Malaysia 2001......
enjoy
well, if we were to credit the guyz from local / international races, sometimes it ain't fair as different organisers (local) has different ways of running a race while not many could afford to attend an international event!
so any1 willing to plan a local "international" class race just like de one in 2001??? which was organised by hobby heaven, subang, ISTC Malaysia 2001......
enjoy
Originally posted by jfc_tech
Well, i wanna add my list on this Malaysian driver...since we Sabahan also Malaysian, right?!
This is my choice...not in order also...so guys who know me...be patient & don't be mad if i put you last...whoever comes to my mind first..u firstlah.
(1) Samuel
(2) Gary (recent Tawau EP & GP Champion)
(3) David
(4) Alan Ng
(5) Danny
(6) Anderson
(7) Ah Wah
(8) Daniel Fung
(9) KK Lee
(10) Charles
Labuan: Chris Han (recent Labuan GP Champion)
To those names are not here...sorry you're not forgotten but i just don't know how to spell yer names
Well, i wanna add my list on this Malaysian driver...since we Sabahan also Malaysian, right?!
This is my choice...not in order also...so guys who know me...be patient
& don't be mad if i put you last...whoever comes to my mind first..u firstlah.(1) Samuel
(2) Gary (recent Tawau EP & GP Champion)
(3) David
(4) Alan Ng
(5) Danny
(6) Anderson
(7) Ah Wah
(8) Daniel Fung
(9) KK Lee
(10) Charles
Labuan: Chris Han (recent Labuan GP Champion)
To those names are not here...sorry you're not forgotten but i just don't know how to spell yer names
05-21-2003, 06:43 PM
#56
Tech Regular
walau..pandora box = andy dass a main driver
i suppose u choose the nick coz rc is like a pandora box..once open (sangkut in this case) hells breaks free (in this case money from ur wallet)
your contribution would be valuable for us novices.....
i suppose u choose the nick coz rc is like a pandora box..once open (sangkut in this case) hells breaks free (in this case money from ur wallet)
your contribution would be valuable for us novices.....
05-21-2003, 06:44 PM
#57
Tech Regular
spawn..
i would try ur suggestion on camber angle. hopefully it works so can save money on premature ais cream cone tyres..
i would try ur suggestion on camber angle. hopefully it works so can save money on premature ais cream cone tyres..
05-21-2003, 07:01 PM
#58
Originally posted by crazy
the reason why some players set at -3 deg and still cone more than those who set at -2 deg is due to the shocks setting. Try hardening the spring. Or the easier way, put more negative until the coning stops
the reason why some players set at -3 deg and still cone more than those who set at -2 deg is due to the shocks setting. Try hardening the spring. Or the easier way, put more negative until the coning stops
05-21-2003, 07:38 PM
#59
Originally posted by vones
position of shocks plays a part....more laid down more chamber change....
position of shocks plays a part....more laid down more chamber change....
05-21-2003, 07:57 PM
#60
Helooooooooooo Andy, my top 10 driver.
Good to hear you are back.
How's things lately?? Wish you well man!!!
Regarding the issue not spending much, nice advice. At least it's coming from a top driver in the country.
How's your 1/10th race lately??
Interested in our Johor National Day buggy race in Johor?? Long time never see you perform, tell your mate to come too if you got time. Including Richard How.
Good to hear you are back.
How's things lately?? Wish you well man!!!
Regarding the issue not spending much, nice advice. At least it's coming from a top driver in the country.
How's your 1/10th race lately??
Interested in our Johor National Day buggy race in Johor?? Long time never see you perform, tell your mate to come too if you got time. Including Richard How.