Indoor Carpet Racing in St Louis

[Merminator]

Tuesday or Wed if I had to vote.

[MiniT21]

i'm good with that too, but i think smac was gonna run oval on wednesday. (i think thats what i heard)

[SteveL]

Originally Posted by Merminator

Can't wait to run one. Hopefully I can just stay on the same lap as Steve "LaFard". Bet you forgot that one Steve!

Thanks for bringing that up. I had forgotten and will try to again.

And for the hot bodies to run now are:

1/10 TC Foam--Protoform R9F or Parma Mohawk2
1/10 TC Rubber Protoform LTR or Mazda Speed6
1/12 Protoform Speed12 or Speed 12b
WGT Protoform Sophia

You forgot the Parma Speed 8 and Speed 8 HD and according to Paul Ciccarillo they will be coming out with a WGT body in a few weeks.

any idea what days they will be racing on? with smac track running oval during the week, running maryville on saturdays, and collinsville every other sunday, Friday could possibly be a good night... for me anyways.

As a married guy that wants to stay that way, I'm hoping for Sundays. Friday and Saturday nights just don't work for me, or should I say my wife.

[evostyle]

Originally Posted by Nitronut3

Larry,

Its just a T2.
I cracked mine and thought i bought one off ebay.
Apparently the guy frogot to mention that it was a T1.
But his auction said T2.
who knew, still scored it for $20shipped, good for making Small CF goodies.
Let me know if you can find one,
would run 1/12th, but why when i have a TC laying around.

I want to run some more On-road,
My off-road got totally better beacuse of it.
and also larry,

i think you also forgot about you doing wheelies down the straight right before you slide it sideways.

I'll see if Drew has any "spares" laying around. Glad to see your interested in racing on-road again. I'm betting as much as you, Mike and Billy have been racing since we last ran on-road together the competion is going to be fierce! I'm sure you guys will all be much faster. Especially since we'll all be equally powered with the brushless and lipo. No more tweaking and truing motors all day.

Drew is out for the week at the Winternats in Fort Meyers, FL. As soon as I talk to him I'll see what he's got.

[evostyle]

Originally Posted by zapmike

Has any construction started on this yet?... still plan on being raceable in march? whats the scoooop!???

wwwaaaazzzzuuuupppp MIKE!

[evostyle]

Originally Posted by Nitronut3

i think you also forgot about you doing wheelies down the straight right before you slide it sideways.

Last weeks wheelie during the A Main warmup sent me home with the T4 in a bag!

Of course I didn't learn my lesson. I geared down for more power, ran slicks and taper pins, lighter Holeshot fronts and pulled wheelies ALL DAMN DAY. (just not so close to the wall) It was great. Finished 3rd about 5 feet behind Justin! I was about 5 seconds down at one point with a few bobbles and was still able to close in slowly. Good race.

[Nitronut3]

cool,

thanks larry

[chensleyrc1]

I could be there most Friday nights, Carbondale is running on Sundays with practice on Wednesdays, but during the dirt oval time at Smac is he going to run Sat nights or just Wed night? Or both. It would be nice to work around all the other action if possible. As of right now I have 3 Friday nights a month I can race with my work schedule.

[Merminator]

Larry are you going to run LIPO or NIMH?

[evostyle]

Originally Posted by Merminator

Larry are you going to run LIPO or NIMH?

Lipo for sedan and Nimh for 1/12th.

[zapmike]

Nate: I love carpet road course, if they can get 2 heats of sedan I'll be there.

Larry: I don't think about trying to compete with you, mere mortals like myself don't aspire to that kind of greatness!!

This whole track idea kinds seems surreal, I know chris always had a good oval turnout, but what's the plan on getting guys out for road course?? It doesn't seem like the prices have come down on 1/10th sedan?? Maybe setting the class specs up early like kevin posted will help. I know u onroad guys are really excited, but any other ideas to get turnout and keep the numbers up? Kinda just musing here...but thought I would share

[evostyle]

Hopefully with the more public location and the fact that Glidescope gets alot of local customers with car interest it'll generate "new" to racing racers. Plus it's closer to the west side of Saint Louis and may draw racers from that side of town who didn't want to drive all the way to Roxanna. I'm sure it'll never have the kind of turnout that SMACTRAC has seen. But if we could get just a third of that on average (30 to 40 enteries / 20 to 30 racers) it'll make for some good racing as more people will have others of "like skill" to race with and you'll get more track time compared to a HUGE turnout. My .02

[evostyle]

oohhh... don't forget I think the're planning an 1/18th scale sedan class. I've owned the Xray M18 and was shocked by how well it handled. Not to mention it was FAST! I had the original M18 / Novak Micro / Speed 300 / Hitec HS-81 / 1400mah 6 cell pack / GRP foams. Ready to RACE was about $230!!!! It ran within .5 tenths of 1/10 stock foam sedan on a 10 second track. It also had the same straight away top speed but had to take the corner a little slower to avoid traction rolling.

[kcobra]

I'd think it would be good for turnout if the 1/12th scale class took off. It's a cheaper class than touring car and easier on the maintenance. Pretty beginner/sportsman friendly also considering they are slower and don't break near as easily.

[dodgeguy]

Originally Posted by zapmike

Nate: I love carpet road course, if they can get 2 heats of sedan I'll be there.

Larry: I don't think about trying to compete with you, mere mortals like myself don't aspire to that kind of greatness!!

This whole track idea kinds seems surreal, I know chris always had a good oval turnout, but what's the plan on getting guys out for road course?? It doesn't seem like the prices have come down on 1/10th sedan?? Maybe setting the class specs up early like kevin posted will help. I know u onroad guys are really excited, but any other ideas to get turnout and keep the numbers up? Kinda just musing here...but thought I would share

Mike, The TC class has come down in price in the last few years. As Foam tire car needed a thicker chassis (higher cost) to work well. And foam tires were not as durable a few years ago as they are today. Now comes rubber tire on carpet. The cars need chassis flex to work well with rubber tire. So the cost of the materials have come down some. You still have high dollar cars like Xray, Corally, and Tamiya. But there is a newer breed of cars that work well with rubber tire.

These are the high line cars,

Xray T2 007/008/009
Corally Phi
Tamyia 416
Hotbodies Cyclone WE

The following cars are good rubber tire platforms with a lower cost than the high line cars, (Below $400)

Xray T2R pro
Associated TC5R/TC5
Losi Type-R
Hotbodies Cyclone TC

The cars I have listed are the normal chassis you will find at rubber tire races across the country. Some are more popular than others at different tracks.


The spec sedan class has not been finalized. But, the Cyclone S RTR is on the top of the list. This is a pre-built car with a battery and overnight charger included. They go for around $270 This class would be ran box stock. With only a few minor changes that the driver can make. The car already has ball diffs, oil filled shocks and bearings. We want a class for sedan that someone can walk in and buy and race that day. This car can also be upgraded if the driver wants to run in the 17.5 rubber tire class. I ran one of these in summer of 2007 with great success. This is a really good car on rubber tire.


There are a ton of used cars that would work well with rubber tires. Remember in looking for a rubber tire car.

You want chassis flex in a rubber car, so a 2.0 or 2.5mm chassis is good. Any thicker and that is a foam/carpet chassis.

You may want a spool or a one way. this depends on your driving style some. But a spool will always be easier to drive than a one way in the car.

Some past good rubber tire cars,

Xray T1/FK04/FK05/T2/T2R/T2 007
Losi XXXS
Associated TC3/TC4
HPI Pro4
Corally RDX
Tamiya 414/415/TA04/TA05


Your main concern with an older car is parts availability. You will break a part at some point. This is one reason why a newer car can be a better option.

In years past with rubber tire, tires did not last very long. You had a huge choice in compounds, wheels, and inserts. Now a days rubber tire is much simpler. It is actually easier than off road. You can spend about 35 for a set of rubber tires that will work very well for a month or 2 on carpet. At the track only a couple of compounds will be sold. Jaco blues and greens. So only 2 options to worry about. We may get to a point with the track where only 1 tire choice is needed. This happens at many tracks.

I hope some of this info is helpful. I am sure I am leaving out a car or 2. If anyone wants to add any more go for it. I have raced rubber tire for a number of years now. Both carpet and asphalt. You will find it is a blast to drive.