Originally posted by Trillian123 You Know Greg, Seems to me that Chris Jones had some trouble with the loop coming up too, I don't ever remember any problems at Red-X, But I know that the loop has come up at Mike's a couple of times, and his is in the middle of the straight.
Perhaps you should also examine your surface prep before you apply your tape, the age and quality of your tape and your choice of loop placement before you choose to blame "One Person" for you woes.
I've seen people trip over Mike's loop box before, but never seen the loop get pulled up. But thats just me personally.
Look, seems to me that your just trying to start a arguement about an issue that is not debateable. If you don't like our policy about minimum ride height, okay, you've made that clear. But seems to me that your arguing something just for the sake of arguing it! Why? I don't know.... But like I said EVERY track with a loop has the same rules!
But I only deal in FACTS! And the FACT is that the loop can only be pulled up if someone is running too low. On ALL of our tracks except the two where we had the straight in front of the stand, the loop has been in a turn EXACTLY like that one. Same asphalt, same tape, same placement!
Now if you want to argue about fine, but when hundreds of cars pass over this loop with no problem then one guys car damages it, it IS IN FACT HIS FAULT!
I think it was probably an isolated incodent...and most likely won't happen again. It could have been someone getting sideways or maybe flipping at that point. Anyways....no one is pointing fingers, we just need to be aware of ride height. We checked and it seemed like most were plenty high, so who knows...We will have SUPER DUCT tape next time. We won't be changing the way we set it up because this was the only time it has ever happened...all other ways just comprimise the equiptment safety too much.
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We pondered the thought of a bridge an then realized that one hit with a Tmaxx and it would be no more...so that's why we have stuck with this way. We do sometimes run the loop on the straight, but that just depends on track layout.
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Originally posted by Trillian123 BTW, I noticed that both Your and Charlie's cars scraped at times yesterday.
Then I guess you caught us Jim. Our cars cut the loop dispite the fact that they never did it before. You've uncovered the mystery. Congrats...
I don't know what your sudden frickin' beef is with this loop thing...
But let me put this to rest right now. EVERY track that has to tape the loop down has this rule. You don't like it, FINE. You've made that clear. Every race we examined where to place the loop, whats the best place, what will cause the fewest problems and how to best keep the loop box and cable out of harms way. Believe it or not, but there are a lot of other factors to consider other than just "where do we tape it".
But I know we're both too tired from trying to put on a good race to argue over something like where we put the loop.
Like I said, I don't know what your problem is with this loop thing. We know it wasn't you or Phatkat's car that did it because it didn't happen during your race. So why the argument?
I don't get it? Arguing for the sake of arguing?
Just to show that we aren't as dumb as you apparently think we are, here's what we have to consider when placing the loop:
-"just place it on the straight"- Thats fine, but to do that we have to put the straight in front of the stand. Okay, no problem there except that when we do that, certain bumps come into place that don't come into play with the straight on the back. And we've gotten complaints about those bumps, with one person saying "you guys need this place reasphalted" Okay, let us get right on that!
-"don't put it in a turn"- Okay, there was only one other place that we could have put it on yesterday's track. That was past the stand in the little straight section leading to the circle turn. Okay, no problem there....except that the loop box would have to go from the scorers table to that point. We don't know if it would reach, and if it did reach, that leavs a very thick wire running across the lot, begging to be tripped over. On the other side of that cable is a little red box that decodes the transponders and cost about $900! So why risk it being pulled off the table if the cable gets tripped over.
Those two key things along with many others are things we have to consider EVERY SINGLE RACE. If people feel we got it wrong, we try to do it better next time. But no matter how we do it, someone is going to be unhappy. So we have to do whats best for the group.
And whats best for the group is to use the system that has worked so far. Why change all that stuff for one person who is IN FACT, violating the rules?
Help me out here...I'm trying to figure out how the person who cut the loop gets a pass on blame?
Originally posted by Trillian123 You are right Greg, It's not worth arguing over, Sorry I ever brought it up.
I'm just trying to figure out whats going on. Cause when people start arguing just to be arguing, theres usually a deeper issue involved, so I'd like to at least find out if there is a real reason.
Hey.....I think that since you guys are financially responsible for the equipment then you should decide what to do with that equipment. I don't have to worry about it. I'll just concentrate on having fun. I had fun yesterday despite the loop problem....It gave me a little extra lunch time. You guys just keep doing what you're doing.
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I guess I'm just getting a little too fired up about this, but it amazes me to see people argue on behalf of someone who caused three delays because of violating the rules. And then suggest that the rules be changed to account for someone who is breaking them?
Thats like saying that if one person uses a cheater motor in stock class, instead of dealing with that ONE PERSON, you should just change the rules for the whole class!
Originally posted by Darkseid Phatkat: you got any tips for rebuilding this carb? Like I said, I never had to screw with it on my OS .12TR, so this is new territory for me.
There really isn't a whole lot of tips for rebuilding a carb, except clean clean clean. Do it in a clean place, on a clean white towel, and clean it with denatured alcohol, or something similar. Be sure it slides/rotates very smoothly and freely, if not, find out why and buff the sticky spot with 1500-2000 grit paper(I recommend 3M automotive). That should do it, and be sure to note where everything goes, and in what direction. There's only like 10-12 parts total in one of those carbs, so it really isn't too bad.
Every race we examined where to place the loop, whats the best place, what will cause the fewest problems and how to best keep the loop box and cable out of harms way. Believe it or not, but there are a lot of other factors to consider other than just "where do we tape it".
You guys just keep doing what you're doing.
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